Olliekooga
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Hi guys
Once again this subject has raised its ugly head complete with broken neck and dislocated shoulders.
I think even the most ardent Welsh fan would be hard pressed to argue Bradley Davies didnt deserve a red card let alone yellow, but what about Ferris'. I didnt see a problem with it at the time (and still dont) and thought the ref had blown for something else until I saw the replay which showed the tackle from Ferris.
Obviously some voices will be heard speaking of inconsistency and the problem of players knowing what is and isn't permitted. Here is the IRB stance
Law 10.4(j) reads: Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.
A directive was issued to all Unions and Match Officials in 2009 emphasizing the IRB’s zero-tolerance stance towards dangerous tackles and reiterating the following instructions for referees:
- The player is lifted and then forced or ‘speared’ into the ground (red card offence)
- The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player’s safety (red card offence)
- For all other types of dangerous lifting tackles a yellow card or penalty may be considered sufficient
with this in mind and applying strictly to the Ferris tackle
1. Did he lift him off the ground - Yes (only just is good enough)
2. Did his (Evans I think) upper body come into contact with the ground - Yes
Does this mean Ferris should have seen a red card as well.
I personally believe the context of the game has to be taken into contact and the perceived intent but I am a humble prop and would like to know what the illuminatus of the rugby world (you guys) think
Ollie
Once again this subject has raised its ugly head complete with broken neck and dislocated shoulders.
I think even the most ardent Welsh fan would be hard pressed to argue Bradley Davies didnt deserve a red card let alone yellow, but what about Ferris'. I didnt see a problem with it at the time (and still dont) and thought the ref had blown for something else until I saw the replay which showed the tackle from Ferris.
Obviously some voices will be heard speaking of inconsistency and the problem of players knowing what is and isn't permitted. Here is the IRB stance
Law 10.4(j) reads: Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.
A directive was issued to all Unions and Match Officials in 2009 emphasizing the IRB’s zero-tolerance stance towards dangerous tackles and reiterating the following instructions for referees:
- The player is lifted and then forced or ‘speared’ into the ground (red card offence)
- The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player’s safety (red card offence)
- For all other types of dangerous lifting tackles a yellow card or penalty may be considered sufficient
with this in mind and applying strictly to the Ferris tackle
1. Did he lift him off the ground - Yes (only just is good enough)
2. Did his (Evans I think) upper body come into contact with the ground - Yes
Does this mean Ferris should have seen a red card as well.
I personally believe the context of the game has to be taken into contact and the perceived intent but I am a humble prop and would like to know what the illuminatus of the rugby world (you guys) think
Ollie
