i) I was asking a rhetorical question, it did not directly reference you (though it was implicit, that's the point), thus I could not give a **** whether you've been trolling the supporters of other teams, or if this was a first. If it truly is, good on you, but give the poor attempts at sophistry a break.[/b]
No you directly alluded to me by your "who on their first day belittles other teams?" (not verbatim), as I had registered on that day and had a little pop against Australia; although it was hardly malign nor vitriolic. Boo hoo not everyone loves the Aussies always, tough shite. Another thing that is laughable is you claim I tried my hand at "sophistry" yet you go ahead and do it yourself, with some banal pseudo-intellectual w*nkery which is a little off
ii) I'm fully aware that many on this forum are arrogant, and indeed a lot of them are aussies. Australia does win, a lot, it's how it is, not an embellishment, a misrepresentation or a conceited thing to say . We have one of the best gold medal to head count ratios in the olympics (let alone the commonwealth games), easily one of the highest sport participation rates, and it shows, hence why Graham Henry stated his opinion that Australia was one of the best sporting nations in the world. Providing a simple reason why Aussies are sometimes rather immodest is not a signifier of my head being up my arse.[/b]
Well I applaud any nation that excels in a lot of sports, including Australia. However there are plenty of caveats around warning us of the perils of arrogance, complacency, underestimating and of course hubris (which I suggest you look up). The very definition of being arrogant is being up one's own proverbial, whether you like to admit it not. Making a half-witted attempt at side stepping that just makes it more evident dear fellow.
On the other hand, deliberately misinterpreting it as such while ignoring one's own presumptuous little diatribes is a signifier of being an absolute tard.[/b]
Now now don't get touchy by labelling me a tard, you don't do yourself any favours by that and you give more credence to a point of view which you visibly feel affronted by. If you think my comments were diatribes then my calling you 'precious' isn't an assumption built on a sandy foundation. For one I'm not bitter not have been abusive about the Australian victory. Remember "deliberately misinterpreting it as such while ignoring one's own presumptuous little.." wotsit. I merely challenged certain views on here; i.e. that Australia took its foot of the gas. I believe Australia deserved their victory given how they played in the first half, and there's nothing I've said here which contradicts by implication/direct reference that sentiment.
As for quoting my s.t.f.u post from ages back, I guess it would be rather hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if a tongue-in-cheek reply to an unfounded piece of invective actually constituted "collective arrogance," unfortunately for you it does not. There are ways of purporting it to be, and indeed you have tried, but when it comes down to it, saying that Australia rarely loses (followed by a wink emoticon) does not really come across as that imperious, especially when one compares it to the things that you've come out with.[/b]
Fortunately for me and at your expense I found it amusing. Especially since you devoted a paragraph explaining, justifying and ultimately vindicating the arrogance found amongst many Aussies as you said. Yet in the other quote the "STFU" one, you speak of having a "quiet confidence". Good job there son. The second quote was a poor choice by me, that's the only thing I'll concede. But you gave me a much better one instead so I guess it work nevertheless.
Losing is hard, unfortunately you're not accepting it with the same dignity as your welsh counterparts on this forum. Man up and stop having a b!tch.[/b]
Wakey wakey I'm Welsh, we're used to defeats and this latest one didn't come as a surprise. I don't particularly care about displaying 'dignity' nor grace. In fact I haven't disputed that Australia shouldn't have won given Wales' performance, however I disagree with certain little pointers made by others, which I have already briefly mentioned. I suggest you grow thicker skin if this is how you react to an innocuous and ultimately trivial post. It's you who needs to front up.