what would your 08 team ratings be?

[Bullitt]

Carlos Spencer still have a higher rating then Daniel Carter. [/b]

The rating for Spencer was f***ed up last time as he wasn't the fastest outside half, kouldn't kick the furthest and the goal kicking was a bit 'meh'. His number was higher then anyone else but he wasn't actually a better player.

Not that it matters anymore being as he won't even be in this one.

 

[Dmx#1]

True, That was like conrad smith as well, a very high rating but terribly average to play with imo.

 

[SPIDER18]

i agree that conrad (still nzs best centre) is average in the game. B)

 

[MunsterMan]

For the RWC mode the order should be based on IRB World rankings. The ratings i have given do not really matter but the order is the one they should use.

#1 New Zealand 95
#2 France 92
#3 South Africa 92
#4 Australia 90
#5 Ireland 90
#6 Argentina 88
#7 England 86
#8 Wales 84
#9 Italy 84
#10 Samoa 79
#11 Scotland 79
#12 Fiji 77
#13 Canada 70
#14 USA 69
#15 Romania 65
#16 Georgia 65
#17 Japan 65
#18 Tonga 64
#19 Portugal 60
#20 Namibia 55

When it comes to provincial rugby Llanelli Scarlets should be about 75/76 due to HEC form but all other Celtic provinces rated based on Magners/Celtic league place (Although in big matches Leinster choked.... a lot).

Sharks and Bulls should be equal on say 82/3. Crusaders and Blues equal on 80 and brumbies on 79. All the rest rated on S14 place.

Club rugby, Not looking good for the French sides based on HEC cup form, Leicester about 82/3 and Wasps 80. Gloucester did finish top of the GP so about 79 and a ratings drop for sale and Quins should come in at about 70 based on GP place.

They way they seem to be handing out Impact players Matfield or Bakkies Botha should be a star player and O'Connell, Murray or Bortalami as they were the best Second rows in their side of the world this year.

If Jerry Collins is an Impact player then Martin Corry and David Wallace should probably be Impact players as well. I also have a feeling that Gordan Darcy will be an Impact player this time.

 

[SPIDER18]

For the RWC mode the order should be based on IRB World rankings. The ratings i have given do not really matter but the order is the one they should use.

#1 New Zealand 95
#2 France 92
#3 South Africa 92
#4 Australia 90
#5 Ireland 90
#6 Argentina 88
#7 England 86
#8 Wales 84
#9 Italy 84
#10 Samoa 79
#11 Scotland 79
#12 Fiji 77
#13 Canada 70
#14 USA 69
#15 Romania 65
#16 Georgia 65
#17 Japan 65
#18 Tonga 64
#19 Portugal 60
#20 Namibia 55

When it comes to provincial rugby Llanelli Scarlets should be about 75/76 due to HEC form but all other Celtic provinces rated based on Magners/Celtic league place (Although in big matches Leinster choked.... a lot).

Sharks and Bulls should be equal on say 82/3. Crusaders and Blues equal on 80 and brumbies on 79. All the rest rated on S14 place.

Club rugby, Not looking good for the French sides based on HEC cup form, Leicester about 82/3 and Wasps 80. Gloucester did finish top of the GP so about 79 and a ratings drop for sale and Quins should come in at about 70 based on GP place.

They way they seem to be handing out Impact players Matfield or Bakkies Botha should be a star player and O'Connell, Murray or Bortalami as they were the best Second rows in their side of the world this year.

If Jerry Collins is an Impact player then Martin Corry and David Wallace should probably be Impact players as well. I also have a feeling that Gordan Darcy will be an Impact player this time.

ok i agree the irb rankings are agood starting point but don't you think ireland are better than aus.

i don't know who david wallce is but martin corry isn't even close to jerry collins so i hardly think hes suddenly a mandatory impact player.



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Sharks and Bulls should be equal on say 82/3. Crusaders and Blues equal on 80 and brumbies on 79. All the rest rated on S14 place.

Club rugby, Not looking good for the French sides based on HEC cup form, Leicester about 82/3 and Wasps 80. Gloucester did finish top of the GP so about 79 and a ratings drop for sale and Quins should come in at about 70 based on GP place.

They way they seem to be handing out Impact players Matfield or Bakkies Botha should be a star player and O'Connell, Murray or Bortalami as they were the best Second rows in their side of the world this year.

If Jerry Collins is an Impact player then Martin Corry and David Wallace should probably be Impact players as well. I also have a feeling that Gordan Darcy will be an Impact player this time.

[/quote] ok i agree the irb rankings are agood starting point but don't you think ireland are better than aus.

i don't know who david wallce is but martin corry isn't even close to jerry collins so i hardly think hes suddenly a mandatory impact player.

[/quote] i don't think the brumbies should be that close to the blues or crusaders. matfield and maybe murray but bakkes botha isn't that great he probably looks better because he has the worlds best lock as his partner.

 

[MunsterMan]

I don't really think Corry deserves to be an Impact player either as he disappeared in the HEC final when his team needed their captain to step up under huge pressure but EA will give it to him as he is the England captain.
David Wallace was one of the best on the field in every Irish six nations match. And if the definition of an Impact player is someone who can change a game or even win a match almost on his own Wallace definitely qualifies.

 

[SPIDER18]

I don't really think Corry deserves to be an Impact player either as he disappeared in the HEC final when his team needed their captain to step up under huge pressure but EA will give it to him as he is the England captain.
David Wallace was one of the best on the field in every Irish six nations match. And if the definition of an Impact player is someone who can change a game or even win a match almost on his own Wallace definitely qualifies. [/b]

but thats not the definition ea use they define an impact plkayer as a player with special abilities they do mention ability to change the game but in practice they choose players like percy montgomery for his kicking. does wallace specialise in something(richie mccaw turnovers, jerry collins tackling, larkham step).

 

[MunsterMan]

He is a ball carrier who is unstoppable close to the line and is very fast a swell. Very alert and notices the little things. In 06 he rated 92 so he is fairly close to IP i reckon. He was also part of the back row that destroyed the boks in the autumn

clips from this years 6N

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuOoR2tIp-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcjQMj6Gkag

 

[SPIDER18]

He is aball carrier who is unstoppable close to the line and is very fast aswell. Very alert and notices the little things. In 06 he rated 92 so he is fairly close to IP i reckon.

clips from this years 6N

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuOoR2tIp-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcjQMj6Gkag [/b]

ok so hes been around more than just this year what position does he play. i suppose he may qualify as a tackle breaker but i not sure any of those things would come under ea stats except speed and i imagine hes not quite habana quick. B)

 

[phoenix]

David wallace is an excellent all round player (ball carrying, tackling, rucks) and he'll have a high rating like 95 but he wont be a star player. Like conrad smith in '06.
And I think the brumbies will have a high rating this time round as well

 

[SPIDER18]

David wallace is an excellent all round player (ball carrying, tackling, rucks) and he'll have a high rating like 95 but he wont be a star player. Like conrad smith in '06.
And I think the brumbies will have a high rating this time round as well [/b]

yeah he didn't sound like an impact player. but why would the brumbies be rated well? like all aussie teams they were average if not worse all year (yeah and the hurricanes were **** i know). B)

 

[MunsterMan]

what position does he play.
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He is a 7.

David wallace is an excellent all round player (ball carrying, tackling, rucks) and he'll have a high rating like 95 but he wont be a star player. Like conrad smith in '06.
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Yeah, maybe i am a bit bitter that Ireland only had one Impact player in 06 while Darcy, O'Connell and Wallace are some of the best players in their positions in the world.

 

[sasnoz]

brumbies were 5th this year and beat the crusaders which started the crusaders losing streak and the brumbies will always be better than the hurricanes

 

[SPIDER18]

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what position does he play.
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He is a 7.

David wallace is an excellent all round player (ball carrying, tackling, rucks) and he'll have a high rating like 95 but he wont be a star player. Like conrad smith in '06.
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Yeah, maybe i am a bit bitter that Ireland only had one Impact player in 06 while Darcy, O'Connell and Wallace are some of the best players in their positions in the world. [/b][/quote]

i would be careful how far you go with that at 2nd five both giteau and mcalister and also mauger are better than darcy, at lock your probably right but hes not close to matfield and at seven burger, mccaw, phil waugh and geogre smith would be better in my opinion. also i think matfield didn't have a star till this year so theres a chance o'connell might. B) or have you seen him in the videos?

brumbies were 5th this year and beat the crusaders which started the crusaders losing streak and the brumbies will always be better than the hurricanes [/b]

man short memory not only did i admit the hurricanes were **** just last year hurricanes got 2nd (remember the fog?)and the brumbies once again failed to make the semis becoming atrend without nucifora? as for their win over the crusaders one game doesn't make a season. B)

 

[phoenix]

I'm sure Darcy will be a star player. The brumbies should of been in the semis, it was only their crap attacking play in the first few rounds which cost them. and they had more wins than the crusaders who were 3rd

 

[MunsterMan]

If Matfield has a star and O'Connell does not i would not be very happy. You haven't seen much NH rugby have you? Giteau, Mauger and McCallister are all diferent players. Darcy and BOD are the best 12 13 combo in the world. If Ireland do play NZ the lineout and the centres is the only area that we are better than them.

 

[SPIDER18]

I'm sure Darcy will be a star player. The brumbies should of been in the semis, it was only their crap attacking play in the first few rounds which cost them. and they had more wins than the crusaders who were 3rd [/b]

if the crusaders had kicked the ball out instead of going for the bonus point and they would have had a home semi and could still be super 14 champs and thats aless of an if than if the brumbies had magically just played better in the first few rounds hell if the hurricanes had scored one try extra a game they would have made the semis get real. their win against the crusaders is balanced out by the fact they nearly lost to the force who the crusaders anialated(yes i know the hurricanes lost to the force) if you bring up selected information you can twist it to your advantage. B)

 

[MunsterMan]

I'm tipping Chabal to be a lot better this year and a Star player next year because of his aparent new kiwi fans. Actualy to be honest i expected him i be better in 06. There are a lot of over and under rated players.

 

[SPIDER18]

I'm tipping Chabal to be a lot better this year and a Star player next year because of his aparent new kiwi fans. Actualy to be honest i expected him i be better in 06. There are a lot of over and under rated players. [/b]

yeah but hes not even going to be a starting player at least not definitly. hes almost a french jerry collins hes awesome. B)

 

[sasnoz]

the brumbies along with the chiefs should have been in the top 4 instead of the blues and crusaders on the form shown from the back end of the season, coming 5th is not a poor season even for brumbie standards and as you mention the hurricanes in the final last year lets not forget an extremely fortunate win over the bulls and two more over the waratahs one of which was in the semi and was a dodgy kaplan decision, and by the way i live in the hurricane region [otaki] and i read the dominion post which is blatant propaganda for hurricane supporters

best defense in the comp i might add as well and let me assure you defence is what wins worldcups