England 2024/25

[Geordie]

Not if Sale are in the play offs. Players from the top 4 are unavailable for the XV game.

Sorry...I'm getting wires crossed.

 

[Ddanno]

Please no...I'd rather invest in Cleaves or Elliott.
Roebuck and OHC for the main games

Cleaves is still injured afaik

 

[BPM]

Yep. Plus I was talking about for the XV game without the top 4 players.

That leaves the options for 15 as Hodge, Ramm, Barton, David or Redshaw (who I'd forgotten until just now).

Green qualifies on residency this year but not until a bit later in the summer and has been in poor form anyway.

Before I remembered Redshaw, Ramm was probably looking like a decent choice.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Ramm has been involved in SB camps before as well so there is interest from England.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Counting down for springbok rejects is bad enough but wallaby rejects is a new low

 

[BPM]

A lot of misinterpretation here. I wasn’t touting Ramm for the Argentina tour.

I was specifically referring to the 'England XV' game which I think is uncapped anyway like the old Barbarians fixture. I thought that was clear at the time but maybe not?

I wouldn't even have mentioned him in normal circumstances. Forget I said it.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Hmm I feel the Wallabies will prob be looking at him again.
They have gone so much harder on bringing back these kind of players

Already talks that Kemeny is being chased by the ARU and Tahs, at 27 I can see the ARU having talks with Ramm.

 

[Flankers' paradise]

When Kemeny signed he said something about his intention being to return to Aus a better player so that isn't a huge surprise - although I don't think he's been good enough for the lions. Ramm has been in fine form recently but no better than tom wright or sua'ali'i

 

[Geordie]

A lot of misinterpretation here. I wasn't touting Ramm for the Argentina tour.

I was specifically referring to the 'England XV' game which I think is uncapped anyway like the old Barbarians fixture. I thought that was clear at the time but maybe not?

I wouldn't even have mentioned him in normal circumstances. Forget I said it.

Probably my fault, im getting lost with how many A games and tour games there are.

21st June - England XV v France XV (3.15pm)

5th July - Argentina v England (in Arg)
12th July - Argentina v England (in Arg)

19th July - USA v England (in US)

8th November - Spain v England A ( in Spain)


So am i right that the XV v France will NOT include any of the top 4 in the Prem?

 

[Ddanno]

The final is on 14 June so it would be awkward for the coaches to select any of the top 4 unless they're not bothered about training together

 

[TRF_Olyy]

No Mitchel or Smiths over the summer is a bummer,
Ford and Atkinson?
Don't rate Atkinson unless he's getting an armchair ride, been better for Gloucester but seen him put in some terrible terrible performances in the past

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

OK give me a Argentina squad of
1. Baxter, Rodd, Obano
2. Langdon, George, Dan
3. Heyes. AFO,
4. Coles, Isiekwe,
5. Clark, Hill
6. CCS, Kenningham
7. Curry, Underhill
8. Willis, Alfie
9. JVP, Randall,
10. Ford, Atkinson
11. IFW, Radwan
12. Dingwall, (Hartley, Atkinson, Woodward)
13. Beard, (Slade or Ojomoh)
14. Roebuck, OHC
15. Furbank, Steward, Carpenter

 

[Ddanno]

Shame CA and Bailey both dropped off so much. I'd put a hesitant finger in the air for Benson?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Annoyed re Pollock I hope he plays a test because if he misses out test rugby against a really good pack like Argentina because he's playing farmers in the mid week I would be annoyed

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

No Mitchel or Smiths over the summer is a bummer,
Ford and Atkinson?
Don't rate Atkinson unless he's getting an armchair ride, been better for Gloucester but seen him put in some terrible terrible performances in the past

Furbank as a second choice 10?

 

[Rugbyfan564]

No Mitchel or Smiths over the summer is a bummer,
Ford and Atkinson?
Don't rate Atkinson unless he's getting an armchair ride, been better for Gloucester but seen him put in some terrible terrible performances in the past

Suspect Brothwick wasn’t happy when he heard Marcus Smith being called (He likely expected he would have Finn.

 

[TommiG88]

Possibility that bath 10 goes too? Bit of a bolter

 

[Scotty]

So English players away with the lions
Genge LCD Stuart
Itoje Chessum
TCurry Earl Pollock
Mitchell FSmith

Freeman MSmith Daly

sure I've missed someone.

10 Ford and ? Who's putting their hand up?
What's the team looking like?

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Brothwick will be really hoping Ford is not n sh in line if one of the Smith's or Russell need replacing because that would mess up his plans for summer.

Wonder if Ford could be captain his next match will be the 100th.

 

[Rugbyfan564]

So English players away with the lions
Genge LCD Stuart
Itoje Chessum
TCurry Earl Pollock
Mitchell FSmith

Freeman MSmith Daly

sure I've missed someone.

10 Ford and ? Who's putting their hand up?
What's the team looking like?

And the odds are very much someone else will be added - looking at it there hasn’t been a lions tour in many decades where an English player is not among the replacements