A Political Thread pt. 2

[Welsh Exile]

No I want them to act like a democratic state, and show restraint.
Hamas was beaten to a pulp a few months into this thing. Now it's a complete genocide.

How is it not acting like a democratic state? Is restraint inherent to democracies or something. Democracies tend to, not always obviously, follow a consensus of the people. Most Israelis want Netenyahu out but I think a lot still support Hamas being eradicated

 

[dirty harry]

Most urban wars the civil population is allowed to flee...

I mean, Egypt and Jordan have been very clear, they dont want to allow them to flee to their country!

 

[Welsh Exile]

Most urban wars the civil population is allowed to flee...

Is that all Israel’s fault?

 

[Welsh Exile]

I mean, Egypt and Jordan have been very clear, they dont want to allow them to flee to their country!

Let alone Hamas shooting people trying to get to safer zones let alone other countries.

 

[dirty harry]

Is that all Israel's fault?

I would say partly, let's be honest an exodus from Gaza would be very well received by Isreal hahaha

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Are you claiming Isreal are trying to wipe Gaza off the face of the planet?

They are literally paying contractors per house they destroy.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination

 

[Welsh Exile]

What hoops?
Where have I defended Hamas?

Your whole default position is Isreal bad mate. Isreal are genocidal maniacs. This is out and out Hamas propaganda hence you playing right into their hands. This is exactly their whole strategy.

 

[dirty harry]

They are literally paying contractors per house they destroy.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination

So, if Isreal are trying to wipe Gaza off the face of the planet, whats stopping them?

 

[Welsh Exile]

I would say partly, let's be honest an exodus from Gaza would be very well received by Isreal hahaha

Yeah, Netenyahu and co would love a sequel to the Nakba.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

So, if Isreal are trying to wipe Gaza off the face of the planet, whats stopping them?

They are literally doing it and nothing is stopping them.

Just how they have been putting in illegal settlers on the West Bank for decades and no one is stopping them...

 

[Saintjay]

Would the 100,000 more deaths than expected in Iraq since the 2003 war be seen as a genocide. Or is it dependent on definition?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Here's a question, according to the UN approx 70% of the buildings in Gaza have been destroyed. Why is it then, that 70% or at least 50%) of the population of Gaza haven't been killed?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Here's a question, according to the UN approx 70% of the buildings in Gaza have been destroyed. Why is it then, that 70% or at least 50%) of the population of Gaza haven't been killed?

I mean over 90% of the population has been displaced.

 

[dirty harry]

They are literally paying contractors per house they destroy.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/15/gaza-latest-israeli-plan-inches-closer-extermination

I couldn't get all the way through, when the UN, WHO and human rights watch are copy pasting Hamas propaganda then we have to take a step back and breath lol.

For the record, I actually think Isreal is trying to displace Palestinians to the Humanitarian section, and this is where the genocide thing gets merky, and we get into definitions, but wouldnt that make Egypt and Jordan genocide allies?

 

[Welsh Exile]

I mean over 90% of the population has been displaced.

No ****. 70% of the buildings have been destroyed. But that wasn't my question. Care to answer it?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Would the 100,000 more deaths than expected in Iraq since the 2003 war be seen as a genocide. Or is it dependent on definition?

Honestly I would be fine with calling the Iraq war a genocide tbh, I don't think it fits the definition but the damage is akin to it.

Again I don't support the Iraq war

 

[McTallshort]

Let alone Hamas shooting people trying to get to safer zones let alone other countries.

Safer Zones? Really in Gaza?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I couldn't get all the way through, when the UN, WHO and human rights watch are copy pasting Hamas propaganda then we have to take a step back and breath lol.

For the record, I actually think Isreal is trying to displace Palestinians to the Humanitarian section, and this is where the genocide thing gets merky, and we get into definitions, but wouldnt that make Egypt and Jordan genocide allies?

I wouldn't call Egypt or Jordan allies but I would say they are complicit in the deaths of thousands.
I may be wrong but they are not helping Israel directly, in fact Israel would indeed love for those countries to take them in, it makes taking over Gaza less messier and would've saved ammo

 

[McTallshort]

No ****. 70% of the buildings have been destroyed. But that wasn't my question. Care to answer it?

70% of the buildings destroyed? How the **** do justify that?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

No ****. 70% of the buildings have been destroyed. But that wasn't my question. Care to answer it?

So what is the question? Why didn't people stay in their homes to die?