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We were almost forced out of a Union by voters in Scotland and we had no say in it.

How the hell should I know, perhaps they always need a bad guy, in the past it was the Eastern block, then it was global warming and when everyone got bored of that they are now pointing to Muslims although groups like the PLO were more active back in the day.

Are we the largest proponent of Terrorism? well yeah we are, Iraq, Afganistan, Libra etc but then the West was always funding some sort of civil war mainly against Communists who themselves were funded by the East. I just dont think for all the talk of an age of terror we in the west are suffering as much of it as we did before 9/11.

I think you miss the point of a union by consent, although it would be fair to say that it was a union made with no consent from any of its people. It was in fact created by the unelected. That aside, we weren't rying to force you out of anything. We were trying to leave. Are you saying you can argue that self determination is wrong? If so, I can expect you to join Jeremy Corbyn in calling for talks with Argentina. No?
 
I think you miss the point of a union by consent, although it would be fair to say that it was a union made with no consent from any of its people. It was in fact created by the unelected. That aside, we weren't rying to force you out of anything. We were trying to leave. Are you saying you can argue that self determination is wrong? If so, I can expect you to join Jeremy Corbyn in calling for talks with Argentina. No?

Ah see what you did there! Not against self determination in fact I was kind of disappointed Scotland didnt go for it and vote for independance, even if it had taken you 20 years of hard choices you would have come out of it better off. The point I was making is Scots and Welsh are saying with some justification that if the UK voted to leave the EU that would be against the wishes of most Scots and Welshmen because they tend to be more pro EU. The Scottish referendam was not just vote for self determination it was also a vote break up the Union of the UK something everyone else in the UK didnt get a vote only the Scots.
 
I think that we need to be moving in the opposite direction to independence from the EU: I think we need further economic integration.

Multinationals relocate to avoid tax. How is it fair that Google pay a 3% tax rate, whilst small businesses and employees pay significantly more? It makes small businesses incapable of competing, as Google can offer its products at a significantly lower price.

Wages haven't been rising in line with productivity for years now. Workers are more productive, and don't reap the benefits of their labour. Consider that a single-earner once supported a relatively large family. Now two-earners struggle to support a small family, what with the out-of-control housing market, the increasing cost-of-living, and the weak wage growth. Who is benefiting from globalisation other than the multinationals? Certainly not the average person.

If we are to make globalisation work in workers', the self-employed, and small businesses' favour, we need countries to roughly have a collective tax policy, to stop undercutting one another in an aggressive bid to win business.
 
Ah see what you did there! Not against self determination in fact I was kind of disappointed Scotland didnt go for it and vote for independance, even if it had taken you 20 years of hard choices you would have come out of it better off. The point I was making is Scots and Welsh are saying with some justification that if the UK voted to leave the EU that would be against the wishes of most Scots and Welshmen because they tend to be more pro EU. The Scottish referendam was not just vote for self determination it was also a vote break up the Union of the UK something everyone else in the UK didnt get a vote only the Scots.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Using that logic, the smaller partner would always be forced to submit to the will of the larger. That's no longer a partnership, it's a takeover. What the remaining constituent parts of the UK did after Scottish independence was their business. As a nation in its own right, Scotland had the right to determine its own fate.
 
Anyone have any interest in Irish election.
Is there much to be interested in? It'll likely be Fine Gael, what remains of Labour and a few independents in coalition. No great change will come of it. This country really needs a viable left, had Adams stepped down Sinn Fein could have provided that but unfortunately that man is in no way fit to lead a party anymore. I think they'll still get my first vote because the candidates in my constituency are **** poor and I quite like the Sinn Fein girl's approach and policies.
 
Is there much to be interested in? It'll likely be Fine Gael, what remains of Labour and a few independents in coalition. No great change will come of it. This country really needs a viable left, had Adams stepped down Sinn Fein could have provided that but unfortunately that man is in no way fit to lead a party anymore. I think they'll still get my first vote because the candidates in my constituency are **** poor and I quite like the Sinn Fein girl's approach and policies.
Rumour is if SF do go in to government Mary Lou will take over and Adams will step back to take a 1916 Ambassadorial role.
I will be voting FF here as the TD is local but will be looking at the independents too as my 2,3 and 4.

I don't think FG will get enough independents to join Labour and themselves as in a way it will be political suicide for some.
 
Anyone have any interest in Irish election.

This is the only thing I know about it

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Congratulations to the people of Kerry for electing a pair of homophobic, pro drink driving parochial ****s as TD with an unprecedented majority. Honestly top notch stuff. You truly are the kingdom.
Otherwise I'm disappointed at how my constituency turned out. Shane Ross topping the poles is a perfect example of people having goldfish memories, electing a guy promising to "expose the banks" (there was an inquiry mate, but late) despite being a huge fan of light touch banking regulation and keeping the housing market rolling during the boom. Total revisionist tool.
 
Congratulations to the people of Kerry for electing a pair of homophobic, pro drink driving parochial ****s as TD with an unprecedented majority. Honestly top notch stuff. You truly are the kingdom.
Otherwise I'm disappointed at how my constituency turned out. Shane Ross topping the poles is a perfect example of people having goldfish memories, electing a guy promising to "expose the banks" (there was an inquiry mate, but late) despite being a huge fan of light touch banking regulation and keeping the housing market rolling during the boom. Total revisionist tool.
There's no evidence the Healy Raes are homophobic, voting no in that referendum is no indication of that, and their opinion on drink driving would probably help in rural areas. Setting a reasonable limit of the equivalent of three pints (I think that's their suggestion) would stop people getting blind drunk and driving anyway as is the care now. It would have to be restricted to rural areas though.

The main issue I have with how the election has gone is the amount of independents, including the Healy Raes, we have voted for. They do not help in our political system whatsoever and extort potential coalition parties who need them for the majority.
 
There's no evidence the Healy Raes are homophobic, voting no in that referendum is no indication of that, and their opinion on drink driving would probably help in rural areas. Setting a reasonable limit of the equivalent of three pints (I think that's their suggestion) would stop people getting blind drunk and driving anyway as is the care now. It would have to be restricted to rural areas though.

The main issue I have with how the election has gone is the amount of independents, including the Healy Raes, we have voted for. They do not help in our political system whatsoever and extort potential coalition parties who need them for the majority.

Jesus Christ....
 
Jesus Christ....
What? There's an argument there! The amount of friends I have that drink drive because they have no other route home on a night is frightening, I don't agree with it but there's no stopping them. They've all said they agree with this because they get to enjoy a drink or two and drive relatively safely home. Rural Ireland is totally different to South Dublin...
 
Yeh when I go to rural Ireland (Which is a fair amount) I'm surprised at the amount of drink driving you can see.

Rural England used to be quite bad, but now is a lot better due to changes in attitude, still happens mainly with the young farmers.

Don't agree with it still though.
 
3 pints is an insanely high limit still.
It is yeah but that's just what they campaigned with and they'll be very insignificant in the new government. I think they're right in wanting some actual government action on the matter because we've had everything from the normal don't drink and drive campaigns to a comedy serious on our national television station with an anti-binge drinking and drink driving message. It has had a positive influence in urban areas and the larger towns but it hasn't had much of an effect in the more rural areas to the point where I'm no longer really shocked when a friend of mine tells me about someone in their hometown died by crashing into a ditch after a night out.
 
Ah the idiocy of UKIP keeps on going...

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Some one have an opinion about the Brexit? Is it a good or a bad decision for the UK?
 
What are the figures for students in the UK travelling to the EU to study?

Will admit, I dont know the exact figures. According to a tweet from lady who works for one of the London uni's, roughly 200,000 UK students have benefited from Erasmus, plus a large number of HE staff.

British Council runs most of our Erasmus stuff, and have said that 13,668 periods of study / work placements were undertaken by British students in the EU in 2011/12. That was a record back then - no idea on the last few years though.

It's something that has been steadily rising for years now. Speaking a foreign language is a huge benefit on the UK job market, and Erasmus is a big, if not the most important, factor in developing those language skills while studying at Univeristy.

Losing Erasmus will make it a lot harder to get the chance to study abroad and properly learn the language your studying. Doesn't just apply the language students of course, with courses like Engineering and Chemistry having the opportunity to work with companies in countries like Germany and France via the Erasmus programme.
 
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