So you come to the conclusion "if guns are banned, people still will get shot, so let's not ban them" ?
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So you come to the conclusion "if guns are banned, people still will get shot, so let's not ban them" ?
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No couldnt care less because it will make no difference. What I dont like is the media twisting all this into the usual race baiting BS. Now theres black live matters protests all over the US! Illegitimate protests in my opinion.
The TRUTH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj09ZCRjMbM
"failed liberal urban policies have destroyed these great cities"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiMfKkD6q7Y
Facebook allows people to glorify the murders of these police officers yet censors people talking about corrupt govt policy.
If this man was the head of the DOJ in a america I believe he could make a difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2yqAqPRmiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O39kF_0CGzQ
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Yes we'll believe some random you tube link is The Truth.
Simple fact remains if you have sensible gun control laws and don't arm every police officer. First off they are far less inclined to shoot people who not a clear and present danger. In return it makes it far harder to commit retaliatory strikes.
You'll still get civil unrest from downtrodden societies bit it won't end is so much death. Especially if you dispropotiantly treat a race as criminals which is what happens in the US. Yeah it's sickening that people think that can murder any police officer. But you only have to look at the two incidents this week that were filmed to understand why the black community is so angry at them.
Simple fact remains if you have sensible gun control laws and don't arm every police officer. First off they are far less inclined to shoot people who not a clear and present danger. In return it makes it far harder to commit retaliatory strikes.
You'll still get civil unrest from downtrodden societies bit it won't end is so much death. Especially if you dispropotiantly treat a race as criminals which is what happens in the US. Yeah it's sickening that people think that can murder any police officer. But you only have to look at the two incidents this week that were filmed to understand why the black community is so angry at them.
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In both incidents both black people were incredibly stupid. The guy being held down was reaching for his gun. The other guy was more of a mistake (by an officer who was clearly out of his depth) and they happen. To even suggest that you could get away without arming police in the USA just confirms you have no idea at all what your on about. I live in NZ and the police generally are not armed and thats the way it should be here. But the states your just in a liberal dreamland if you believe otherwise.
In both incidents though nobody needed to be shot dead.
As to disarming police it's not a case of doing it immediately same as banning guns immediately doesn't suddenly disarm everyone. What you need to do is steadily put gun control measures in so you can get to that point. However the Republicans backed heavily by the NRA have stopped any meaningful legislation from passing to even begin to solve the problem.
As to disarming police it's not a case of doing it immediately same as banning guns immediately doesn't suddenly disarm everyone. What you need to do is steadily put gun control measures in so you can get to that point. However the Republicans backed heavily by the NRA have stopped any meaningful legislation from passing to even begin to solve the problem.
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The Republicans are right. Obama and the democraps are after nothing more than a gun grab. If they werent so obviously politically motivated they might get some traction!!
I agree nobody needed to be shot dead and the cops in america I cant stand the way they go about things but it is what it is. When you have a divisive president like Obama enabling people like those involved and supporting BLM and rev Al Sharpton when real leadership is required and not BS politically correct point scoring nothings going to change. And it will infact get MUCH much worse!!
All I see is an agenda and people are blindly filling it.
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Right so you contradict yourself within a sentence there.... Also way to go rewriting history on why many"great" American cities have turned into ****holes, really good job there. Has nothing to do with the fact that these areas fell behind hugely when all the white people moved out to the suburbs leaving black people who in many cases weren't allowed and lacked the means to pursue anything other than a manual or industrial job which those cities were moving away from in favor of service industries anyway.
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Contradiction... yeah and? You obviously didnt watch the whole story on the second one the second guy had a concealed carry which he was legally entitled to and broke no laws. He said something along the lines of im carrying a gun which the asian officer who was arresting misunderstood as him going for his gun to shoot him..... as one might expect any gang banger type to do... but that might be a racist way of thinking no? So maybe i did maybe I didnt contradict myself... the second guy could be regarded as being pretty stupid to reach for his gun in plain site of an officer? Of course that bit wont be headline news in the media anytime soon.
And where did all the jobs go? Yes thats right overseas. If the people in america hadnt let cretins like the Clintons, Bush and Obama and all the others run the country into the ground they might find more jobs around less racially motivated hatred and generally have better lives.
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This argument makes zero sense. The Republicans can stop any meaningful gun control legislation because the Democrats are just on a gun grab because it's just political. Essentially your saying because the Democrats want to win votes by brining in sensible laws and tighten loop holes they can't do it because it's political? Of course it's bloody political you have one group trying to lessen gun control and the other trying to tighten it. Do you actually understand what politics is?
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^^Liberal logic right here. State the obvious then hope nobody realises.
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Fact is every time Obaffoon opens his gob on guns he sells thousands more of the things.
This also makes zero sense....
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Believing guns are the issue makes zero sense.
I'm with Peat, not sure if that quote is serious or not.
Sensible, rational people tend to revisit either their premises or their logic when a contradiction is pointed out to them.
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Source: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
Then again, you don't seem to care much for facts, logic and common sense. I mean "Contradiction... yeah and?".
Are you serious?
Sensible, rational people tend to revisit either their premises or their logic when a contradiction is pointed out to them.
Where do you get your facts? The Onion?
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Source: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
Then again, you don't seem to care much for facts, logic and common sense. I mean "Contradiction... yeah and?".
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I'm with Peat, not sure if that quote is serious or not.
Are you serious?
Sensible, rational people tend to revisit either their premises or their logic when a contradiction is pointed out to them.
Where do you get your facts? The Onion?
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Source: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
Then again, you don't seem to care much for facts, logic and common sense. I mean "Contradiction... yeah and?".
FFS are you for real??
So basically you pussies would rather argue over semantics than actually have a discussion?
No you're just an incoherent idiot.
Yeh anyone who starts calling people with a ratitional counter argument pussies deserves to be taken seriously in a debate.
I don't think I've taken him serious in a debate....well ever I'm just waiting for Witcher 2 to install and need to pass the time.
You think calling other people pussies from 18,000 km away makes you look tough? And you ask me if i'm for real? Define irony.
If it lifts your poor little ego, pretend I'm terrified. Your self esteem clearly needs all the help it can get. Happy to help.
Assume nothing scares me more than thug-behind-a-monitor personalities.
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/
So people are earning less and he's "created" more jobs than bush.... color me impressed.... NOT.
And if theres so many jobs how is it that all these protestors weather it be BLM or whoever have the time to go protest? Whenever I see any of these people on the TV its pretty damn obvious to me they are highly unlikely to be employed in anything meaningful.
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