I did enjoy Angela Eagle's interview yesterday on the Politics Show. She was asked twice, except for Trident what was her differences to Corbyn in terms of policies - she couldn't answer.
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Angela Eagle isn't really a candidate to beat Corbyn (nobody will) her entire job was to test if Corbyn was allowed on the ballot before a 'real' candidate came out.
End of the Labour party don't see how they avoid a split now. Except the spliiting party if enough joining it will become the new official opposition....so will very different from SDLP days.
Personally I think they should name themselves "No Cobyn's"
End of the Labour party don't see how they avoid a split now. Except the spliiting party if enough joining it will become the new official opposition....so will very different from SDLP days.
Personally I think they should name themselves "No Cobyn's"
Actually watching PMQ's Corbyn playing politics which is not really done thing in these circumstances.
Mind you the SNP were far worse.....
So post Brexit check....still have a job? Check. Wife's not been deported? Check. London stock exchange and the pound stabilized? Check. New Prime Minister in place? Check. Labour party in a mess of its rather farcical leaders making? Check. Still looking for negatives
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Hang on - Brexit's already happened? **** - that was quick!
And that whole 15 years to assess the fall-out thing - that really was a typo supposed to say "15 says" or was that just another lie?
And that whole 15 years to assess the fall-out thing - that really was a typo supposed to say "15 says" or was that just another lie?
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Crazy how two years flies by in a matter of weeks yeah.
After the initial panic the only real fall out has been in the main political parties and that will be seen as a positive in years to come
The pound is still screwed it's just no longer in it's initial freefall.
As to jobs apart from hiring freezes it hasn't been calamitous yet, places won't start dropping jobs until it effects profits.
Mass deportation was never going to happen and I don't think anyone really claimed it would which is why people were ****** off the government wouldn't just confirm it.
Reality check is until Davis & May set out what they believe Brexit means and article 50 in invoked were pretty much in a state of suspension after the initial shock the markets are just waiting for the next move as nothing has happened.
But sure kid yourself that it was all over nothing we'll see who right in 2 to 4 years time.
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Plus we've just made Boris Johnson foreign secretary thats not a good thing.
Haha.
How about: racial attacks on the increase since Brexit. Check.
Wait until Article 50 is enforced then we will see the potential horrors of leaving the EU.
Yep. Also most sensible economists were emphasising the economic consequences in the mid-long term rather than the immediate term. There will be a permanent, adverse effect to Trade because the change to guaranteed access to the EU Market changes decisions about investments. The indication by Krugman and Wren-Lewis is - and this is fairly consevervative as an estimate - that we'll lose around 2- 3% income permanently. ...But it could be a lot worse than that
Your only saying that because your stuck in the Euro and EU and you have no way of getting out at least you have some shiny buildings in Dublin.....that are empty
I thought all sensible economists were saying there effect would be felt in the short term or was the long term oh now it's the mid- long term. Oh right well we will see I suppose
Right so you're one of those "we're sick of experts" idiots we have to thank for this nonsense? I can't believe I'm seeing people trying to point to the fact that we're not immediately in recession and say all the panic was for nothing. The referendum happened a couple of weeks ago for gods sake.
An empty building in Dublin? You must be joking. You could rent out the tent that appears in your pants every morning for about 800 quid a month these days. Also those economists were probably talking post Brexit..... You're still in the EU for the imminent future fam. Honestly how boned or otherwise you are will depend completely on what is negotiated in the coming months. Uncertainty is abound. Pound is still fairly weak though and probably will be unless Britain gits good.
Oh yes I forget being in the EU made Dublin the most expensive city in Europe. And those negotiations, the ones were we are dealing with a trading block that exports 68 billion more to us than we do to it, yeah they are going to be really tough....
No your right we just cry, fear the worst and chastise the people who don't agree with us as ignorant racists
No, the people we are calling racist are the ones who tell my wife (French, been here for 19 years) to "fuck off out of our country"; those who tell my wife;s boss "Paki.s go home" (he's Indian Hindi, and been here since the age of 4); or myself that I'm "not welcome here anymore" (British born and bred for at least 4 generations)
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Hahaha you honestly have no idea about our economy mate or why it is how it is. Our housing market is so inflated because we don't have enough houses and a serious amount of our activity and population is centered in a very small area. Our Central Bank is taking steps to tighten mortgages and not let the situation spiral. If it weren't for the EU Ireland would be without a question categorically ****ed within weeks and that's a fact. So yeah I think we'll contend with the property prices which have much more to do with our own attitudes toward housing than anything E.U related.
Also yeah those negotiations where your lot seems to think you'll get your cake and eat it too. Do you really think you will be allowed to participate freely in the E.U market if you don't accept the rules of that free market? There would be uproar and no matter how important you think you are, you are not bigger than the entire E.U economy. You need that E.U trade much more than the E.U needs yours if Britain really doesn't want to pay ball. If treated as one economy Britain is significantly less important to the E.U than the other way around. Just look at the Norway situation which is ironically trotted out by the more ignorant as an ideal situation for post Brexit Britain. They participate in a market where they have next to no say, no democratic representatives or real sway. No Britain is a far bigger economy, but before long would be outstripped by the U.S as the E.U's biggest buyer of exports. Ireland however, we desperately need our trade with the U.K so I hope that Free Trade is maintained for our sake as we don't get to call these shots.
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Also dude where did you pull that 'Dublin most expensive city in Europe from'? Dublin is about eighth. London is well above Dublin and Switzerland as a whole is well above in cost of living etc. Thing is Swiss people on average earn a lot more than Londoners so it balances out a bit. I mean that one is pulled from thin air.
Lads, keep it civil. If you can't make the argument to someone without insulting them, don't make it.
Incidentally, there is an absolutely incredible amount of strawmen on this page. Its like I'm at a harvest festival.
Tallshort, can you point to any of these sensible economists that were saying we'd feel the effect short term i.e. two weeks after the vote?
And do you actually have any response to the rise of racist attacks being a negative other than to glibly not answer the question and redirect the conversation by attacking someone else?
Incidentally, there is an absolutely incredible amount of strawmen on this page. Its like I'm at a harvest festival.
Tallshort, can you point to any of these sensible economists that were saying we'd feel the effect short term i.e. two weeks after the vote?
And do you actually have any response to the rise of racist attacks being a negative other than to glibly not answer the question and redirect the conversation by attacking someone else?
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