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Bullshit and borderline racist - I see the quote marks - I don't see a citation. Who was it? BNP? FN?
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Austingtir, you were not banned because of your views.
You were banned because of how you express them. And you were back in this thread for less than 24 hours before calling J'nuh a ****.
You are clearly incapable of expressing your views in this thread without resorting to insults and swearing. If you continue insulting members, you will be banned. I would suggest you leave the thread, but whatever you do, make your arguments without insulting others.
You were banned because of how you express them. And you were back in this thread for less than 24 hours before calling J'nuh a ****.
You are clearly incapable of expressing your views in this thread without resorting to insults and swearing. If you continue insulting members, you will be banned. I would suggest you leave the thread, but whatever you do, make your arguments without insulting others.
I know I'll come off hillier than though in this post but I've had a little to drink as I'm at a wedding.
There is a massive difference between having opposing views and being insulting. It's why I pushed for answer yesterday as I was insulted by being called unpatriotic. I work bloody hard and am very proud of the work I do yes my politics is one of Mars Attacks Jack Nicholson why can't we all just get along. But I also accept that's not the world we live in and protecting British troops is important and I love the Liberal side of the country I belong to it makes me proud to be British.
Anyway I get strong in my opinions and I want to be countered with well informed opinons. It's what keeps be on my toes if I feel I'm right and wrong. However please post willing to back up those opinions instead of deflecting as it just winds me up.
Again I know I sound like an assessment but I like this thread just for being the place I can be most candid in my views and be argued against without it becoming too much of echo box or a stream of vile and hate.
There is a massive difference between having opposing views and being insulting. It's why I pushed for answer yesterday as I was insulted by being called unpatriotic. I work bloody hard and am very proud of the work I do yes my politics is one of Mars Attacks Jack Nicholson why can't we all just get along. But I also accept that's not the world we live in and protecting British troops is important and I love the Liberal side of the country I belong to it makes me proud to be British.
Anyway I get strong in my opinions and I want to be countered with well informed opinons. It's what keeps be on my toes if I feel I'm right and wrong. However please post willing to back up those opinions instead of deflecting as it just winds me up.
Again I know I sound like an assessment but I like this thread just for being the place I can be most candid in my views and be argued against without it becoming too much of echo box or a stream of vile and hate.
Regarding the Munich shootings, police now confirmed that the kid prepared it for almost a year, visited Winnenden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting and admired Breivik.
He was proven to have been suffering from severe mental illness.
The only ones talking about muslim background are the borderline racists here and in our right wing parties...
He was proven to have been suffering from severe mental illness.
The only ones talking about muslim background are the borderline racists here and in our right wing parties...
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He wasn't.
It still has not been proved. A doubtful "witness" that has been quoted by CNN and one English newspaper.
There's not a single German media claiming it, not even the worst tabloids.
And even IF he did, still he had been ill.
But I'm sure people like you will find a way to connect every crime to Islam somehow, regardless how stupid.
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The vast majority of immigrants don't mean ill to the country they go to. If they didn't we'd all be dead by now.
A nut job is a nut job regardless of race, relgion or creed.
A nut job is a nut job regardless of race, relgion or creed.
Islam doesn't come into this. It doesn't. He was a mentally ill kid whose hero was Anders Brevik. He may have shouted Allahu Akhbar, but he very clearly was just looking for a reason to lash out at society, and he's far more akin to the M.O of the typical marginalized loner U.S school shooter we see about 5 times a year than an Islamic Extremist.
I can accept that Islam, or rather the extreme and warped interpretation of Islam by some bigoted dirty scum terrorists is at the root of so much of the violence we've seen in Europe this year, but not this. The kid was very ill, but I have no sympathy.
I can accept that Islam, or rather the extreme and warped interpretation of Islam by some bigoted dirty scum terrorists is at the root of so much of the violence we've seen in Europe this year, but not this. The kid was very ill, but I have no sympathy.
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Not only that but iv also seen it said he was living in some ghetto as area where alot of turks or some other people of that ilk live. So to say this is nothing to do with immigration is just simply retarded. Sure he was mentally ill.... how hard is it to turn someone who's in a fragile mental state into another one of these mass attack types... doesnt seem to me that its that difficult a thing to happen. People arent just made by where they come from or where they are born. Their surroundings play a huge part in outcomes like this.
I would like to see what percentage of these attacks are being carried out by immigrants or refugee backround type people because its pretty damn obvious that its going to be rather a rather high percentage of them.
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Jnah called me a racist and im not going to put up with that. It cant work one way and not the other.
I read a police statistics yesterday saying that not even 1% of killings in Germany are committed by non Germany.
As long as Europe does not start shooting refugees on their borders themselves, we always will have immigration anyway. Thank god. So what is to discuss there ?
Maybe the West should stop destabilizing the middle east and delivering arms to war parties to stop people from fleeing in the first.
As long as Europe does not start shooting refugees on their borders themselves, we always will have immigration anyway. Thank god. So what is to discuss there ?
Maybe the West should stop destabilizing the middle east and delivering arms to war parties to stop people from fleeing in the first.
Been camping on the east coast did I miss anything?
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^^liberal logic right here. German media and police statistics with Merkel in charge would be about as believable as the DNC in america telling me that Russia framed them for the emails leak....
Although I do agree about keeping noses out of the ME.
Well, I agree with not liking media as well but facts are facts. Media is worse than 20-25 years ago, when we already had wars, terrorism and refugees as well, but they did not stir up such hypes and fears like today.
But I still prefer those over the right-wing media over here that simply tell blatant lies including cannibalism amongst refugees e.g. ...
In other words facts and statistics don't support my view so I'm going to ignore them....good on you fighting the Liberal lies /sarcasm^^liberal logic right here. German media and police statistics with Merkel in charge would be about as believable as the DNC in america telling me that Russia framed them for the emails leak....
Although I do agree about keeping noses out of the ME.
As to the email leak there's absolutely nothing to them it was pretty much publicly known that the DNC didn't want Sanders who only recently described himself as a Democrat to be their candidate. The BBC put it brilliantly.
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Oh so the Chairman/woman of the DNC resigned for no reason whatsoever then?
When your average democrat is this intelligent you can see why they are building a wall around their convention and yet still have the gall to abuse trump over his wall on the southern border:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoIQEsjDds
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Yeah because nobody has ever resigned when theres a media storm over relatively nothing....
So the fact the Democrats are trying put in legitimate security around something that can be easially protected. Is the same as sticking up a massively expensive wall that will likely be as ineffectual as the current fence as the length can't be constantly monitored. But yeah they are totally the same thing.
So the fact the Democrats are trying put in legitimate security around something that can be easially protected. Is the same as sticking up a massively expensive wall that will likely be as ineffectual as the current fence as the length can't be constantly monitored. But yeah they are totally the same thing.
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He's agreeing with you that the DNC was clearly anti Sanders. But he's saying that if this came as a surprise to you or anyone you're pretty naive. The fact that a guy like Sanders has to compromise on some of his values to compete in America's idiotic two party system was ridiculous, and the fact that only two candidates will get a look in is a pretty good indicator. Sanders was never a democrat and his values are far left of the typical democrat.
Do you honestly believe Trump would be an effective president? Do you honestly believe that despite the fact he's hated by democrats and a pretty decent portion of his own party he would get any policy through?
People like you need to stop acting like the world is constantly falling apart to play up your agenda. The world is a better place to live than it ever was for the vast majority of people, yourself included. Also the link you posted, gee whiz there's some stupid democrats out there. The same couldn't possibly be applied to Trump supporters.... Oh wait, the Ku Klux Klan are supporting him, there's hundreds of videos out there of his supporters saying truly idiotic things, not to mention the amount of times Trump has contradicted himself in this campaign. That said I don't at all like Hilary Clinton either and if I were an American would probably spoil my vote. Like I said it's the idiocy of a two party system in a country of over 320 million people.
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