I am having an incredibly difficult time seeing how this makes the Manchester attack America's fault, which is what you seemed to be implying.
Im not implying it Rugger, it's definitely America's fault as the prime power in the group often referred to as 'the West'.
England and France are America's NATO *****es.
It's been that way for a long time now.
It's whats being referred to when the papers talk about Britains 'special relationship' with America.
There's a good article in the conservative rag, the 'Daily Mail' today, on Page 15, it's ***led 'Are we now paying the Price for the chaos Cameron unleashed in Libya?'
The journo puts the blame for 'creating the environment' for the recent attack in Manchester, squarely on David Cameron (the UK govt) for not listening to the author and other journo's at the time about what would happen in the vacuum once Gaddaffi was gone.
However David Cameron pushed on ahead with it in his bid to be a statesman etc and he had this kind of backing on his side...
https://www.rt.com/usa/334400-hillary-clinton-libya-role/
No surprises there.
I'm still shocked that an article like this could come out of the Mail. Nevertheless, the author stops just short of directly blaming Cameron for the atrocity.
The article is quite thorough and goes on to talk about how the warring element in Libya were then offered a conduit to continue their jihad in Syria via a conduit in Lebanon.
Very interesting to read this in a right wing western newspaper 3 years at least after it was reported by RT, and denied at that time by western media.
The truth is, if Nato had not gone into Libya and upset the apple cart and tipped over Gaddafi then the loonies like this bomber and his family would not have had the fertile grounds of war, destruction and puppet occupation to grow their twisted angry belief system.
Gaddafi was a dictator.
Libya was stable under Gaddafi.
When NATO bombed him out they left a war torn law less waste land where the Islamic extremists find fertile ground for their ideas.
When you take war and oppression into another country, you create enemies, civil unrest and you can expect a backlash of some kind.
The backlash from the 'west's' foreign policy in the middle east and the Muslim north african countries, is that they attack the USA's partners in NATO, (France, Britain and Germany) because they are much easier to reach, and they have a multitude of soft targets. That would be 'us' here in Europe, oh yay.
Nice one David Cameron, for creating the nvironment for these ne'er do wells to ferment and nice one Teresa May for keeping the status quo in place.
In short Rugger, the foreign policy of the USA in the middle east and Africa is what creates the environment for the crazies to exist and thrive.
When you squeeze a civilian population over time they will break and warp and turn nutso.
By and large America doesn't care how they conduct themselves, because by being heavy handed they don't have to trade, and they get what they want. They either control the flow of oil (substitute opium or other relevant goods depending on the country they are occupying) through a puppet tyrant/dictator or through localised Warlords.
This is not a conspiracy theory, this is how business is done and it's a dirty business.
A bonus for the yanks is they are far away across the Atlantic so they are considerably less likely to suffer the easily planned low tech soft target attacks we have to contend with here in Europe.
The extremists have always been there, they were previously held in check by puppets like Saddam Hussein, by Gadaffi, by Assad etc and when the stopper is removed, the crazies get their chance to cut loose.
Bear in mind these extremists are not viewed as such in their own countries as they are in 'the west.'
In their own countries many people see them as freedom fighters and liberators, patriots laying down their life against a western army of occupation and oppression.
I don't see them that way, but I do understand how they are made.
A foreign policy of subjugation of indigenous civilians will always create an environment of partisans who will seek to fight the invading/occupying enemy any way they can.
History is littered with examples.
Stop the occupation and the bombing, the drones and the outright theft of their country's sovereign resources..
Immediately.
Focus on moving away from petro chemical fuels. For the mid to long term.
All of a sudden, we are not a target and our beautiful innocent children are not destroyed
