A Political Thread

[ncurd]

Man if the incredibly right wing Fox News that hates Obama with a passion is "conspiring" against you.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37036624

The reality it's yet another gaffe it'll probably go down well with his core voting demographic but this stuff is not winning over the voter he needs to win.

RCP's electoral map is now putting Clinton very ahead. Trump only need to mess up Florida like he has done Pennsylvania and would take a massive upset of biblical proportions.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html

And it is very much a case of Trump losing this rather than Clinton winning it I think most people sit Olly camp about Trump rather wanting Clinton. I think the democrats could of nominated an inanimate carbon rod and they still be winning by this margin.

 

[j'nuh]

Tell me about it. My only wish is that the Democrats had offered someone slightly more revolutionary than Clinton. Someone who really will go after the banks, electoral reform, health reform, inequality in general.

 

[austingtir]

Man if the incredibly right wing Fox News that hates Obama with a passion is "conspiring" against you.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37036624

The reality it's yet another gaffe it'll probably go down well with his core voting demographic but this stuff is not winning over the voter he needs to win.

RCP's electoral map is now putting Clinton very ahead. Trump only need to mess up Florida like he has done Pennsylvania and would take a massive upset of biblical proportions.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html

And it is very much a case of Trump losing this rather than Clinton winning it I think most people sit Olly camp about Trump rather wanting Clinton. I think the democrats could of nominated an inanimate carbon rod and they still be winning by this margin.

Did you actually watch the video of what Trump said? As iv stated previously only spoon fed millenials or leftys could possibly take much of anything the main scream media says seriously.

You've got to be willing to read stuff from all over the place these days to get a balanced picture of whats going on in the world. You obviously dont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs

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Tell me about it. My only wish is that the Democrats had offered someone slightly more revolutionary than Clinton. Someone who really will go after the banks, electoral reform, health reform, inequality in general.

Hilarious, your actually talking about Trump but are to blind to realize it.

 

[austingtir]

Considering the incestuous relationship between the press and the Democratic Party, it comes as no surprise that anti-Trump rhetoric dominates the headlines.
Yahoo Politcal News host Bianna Golodryga is married Peter R. Orszag, the former Director of the Office of Management and Budget for the Obama Administration.
ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Advisor.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications.
NBC News Political Analyst, David Axelrod was Obama's Chief Campaign Advisor and Senior Advisor directly to Obama himself.
NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a Board Member of Warren Buffet’s Company Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet donated almost a BILLION dollars to Obama’s campaign.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who now works for CNN as a commentator.
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
ABC News chief political correspondent and anchor George Stephanopoulos was the White House Communications Director then Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy for Bill Clinton, and was just caught secretly donating $75,000 to the Clinton foundation.
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
NBC Chelsea Clinton was making $600,000.00 a year + benefits as a starting reporter.
Univision’s Emmy Award Winning Anchor Jorge Ramos’s daughter is working on Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign.
Yahoo is partnered with ABC News. The CEO of yahoo, Marissa Mayer is also an Obama campaign donor.

 

[ncurd]

Hillary wants to abolish — essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick…
(CROWD BOOING) If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know.

So what he is implying second amendment people can do? After Clinton would be the full elected leader of the USA.

But yeah I'm sure spoon fed lefty who can't watch a speech or read a transcript and make his own mind.

I love you think your balanced though by reading a bunch or conspiracy theories and then beliving them.

 

[austingtir]

http://thetruthdivision.com/2016/08...iding-this-evidence-proving-trump-is-winning/

 

[ncurd]

Another right wing tin foil job mate seriously your absolutely cracked actually looking at the article bloody hell anyone who thinks that is evidence is thick as two short planks. Couldn't answer my question yet again when face with a direct quote though could you.

 

[austingtir]

Another right wing tin foil job mate seriously your absolutely cracked actually looking at the article bloody hell anyone who thinks that is evidence is thick as two short planks. Couldn't answer my question yet again when face with a direct quote though could you.

We have just completed our own poll since we cannot get factual information from the mainstream media!! We called 1000 homes in each of the 50 states and asked basic questions on the economy, terrorism, immigration and presidential pick.
Economy was the number one factor that Americans are concerned about and terrorism was number two.
Presidential pick was Trump by a large percentage.
Trump 33478 votes 67%
Clinton 9788 Votes 19%
Undecided or other 6739 votes 13%
My friends and I are all Graduate students from all walks of life we meet to discuss stuff. 13 people who like and have served in the Military. It took us most of two weeks to be sure our calls were to all people and not just one party or an other we called Americans.. our poll is by taking registered voter lists and we accumulated 33% repub, 33% dems and 34% ind.. our poll consisted of 1000 calls per state. all 50 states. 50,000 people are in this poll not the 100 like other polls.

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Where are Hillarys massive rallys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibuwnh1IZe4

 

[Bee]

I'm 100% convinced Trump used his words BECAUSE he knew they could/would be "misinterpreted". He lost ground for flaming a vet, a no-go with the rednecks ans now needs to gain grounds again, what probably will works as he now claims "everybody is against me".
Pretty clever move.

 

[austingtir]

I'm 100% convinced Trump used his words BECAUSE he knew they could/would be "misinterpreted". He lost ground for flaming a vet, a no-go with the rednecks ans now needs to gain grounds again, what probably will works as he now claims "everybody is against me".
Pretty clever move.

Nope its pretty clever because what he's doing is the lefty media is going nuts over every little thing he says and twisting it into stuff he never said at all. People in america are already ****** off they are going to see right through all this. I think its genius.

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In B4 Assange is accused of rape in a few weeks: https://www.rt.com/news/355485-assange-sweden-interview-embassy/

[FONT=&amp]Anna Ardin CIA asset. Has an extensive history within the CIA anti-Castro group operating in Havana and Miami.Sofia Wilen Dual MI6 asset and CIA informant.

Gotta hand it to Clinton she works FAST when she's in the ****.

This is how they are going to try and deflect what wikileaks releases around the debates.[/FONT]

 

[ncurd]

Man again your thick and so are those graduates if they think just ringing up 50 states and getting raw stats is actually "scientific". I'd love to know what their degrees are in. Definitely not Statistical analysis by the sounds of things.

Polling models are extremely complex things polling agencies spend huge amounts of money building them. Asking the right questions to right demographics to get a clear picture of what is going to happen is not as a simple as ringing 1000 households. Only rang during the day, what about everyone who works? Evening what about those who work night shifts?

1000 people per state is extremely fundamentally flawed in that some states have far higher populations than others. This means you either need to break down results to a per state basis and not give an overall picture as it's not representative of the country. In their model Montana (a safe Trump state) has exactly the same weight as New York (a safe Clinton state) problem is Montana has a population of 1 million, New York State 20 million. If you ring 1000 people in both states and New York says 75% Clinton and Montana 75% Trump they say it's 50%. Yet the reality is it's 72% Clinton when adjusted for population.

Understand that? Didn't think so AND that's the incredibly simple stuff when it comes to it that they didn't do right.

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Do you have any idea about Assange debate he's been accused of rape for YEARS! You probably just didn't have a clue who he was until now and the idea he might save Trump

 

[austingtir]

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Do you have any idea about Assange debate he's been accused of rape for YEARS! You probably just didn't have a clue who he was until now and the idea he might save Trump

Hes actually "accused" of not using a condom from my memory..... Man you have got to be the most clueless person on here. Either that or a payed George Soros CTR.

So your telling me its all coincidence that he's going to leak stuff all over Hillary and then all of a sudden this comes up after the media in Equador went all bat**** crazy a few days back?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...e-censor-assange-dnc-leaks-criticism-hillary/

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Hillary supporters.... Just lol.
https://www.facebook.com/theamericanmirror/videos/1033917460019485/

 

[ncurd]

Yeah 'clueless' that means a lot coming from you.....wait know the entire statement is completely laughable.

Nope he's wanted for questioning on rape of lesser degree (I've no idea how rape can be of lesser degree is) he was wanted for two counts of sexual molestation, one count of unlawful coercion. But the statue of limitations has run out.

Still if the woman told him use a condom otherwise they weren't having sex and he didn't that's still rape mate. I mean if a woman has told you even with priviso's that you might get some it doesn't give you the right to ignore it.

Either way the Swedish government believes he has a case to answer for and he's been hiding for years over it. More importantly those who say it's US government conspiracy he deliberately and knowing released classified information. That's breaking the law you got to jail for that.


Man people do like to pick and chose what laws people have abide by due to political beliefs....

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There is zero eveidence he's going to leak stuff the only person who seams to think they know what wikileaks will release next is you....top journalist's like at those "left wing rags" as you would refer it to as Guardian and Wasington Post (the ones that blew PRISM story wide open) don't know exactly what's going on.

 

[austingtir]

Yeah 'clueless' that means a lot coming from you.....wait know the entire statement is completely laughable.

Nope he's wanted for questioning on rape of lesser degree (I've no idea how rape can be of lesser degree is) he was wanted for two counts of sexual molestation, one count of unlawful coercion. But the statue of limitations has run out.

Still if the woman told him use a condom otherwise they weren't having sex and he didn't that's still rape mate. I mean if a woman has told you even with priviso's that you might get some it doesn't give you the right to ignore it.

Either way the Swedish government believes he has a case to answer for and he's been hiding for years over it. More importantly those who say it's US government conspiracy he deliberately and knowing released classified information. That's breaking the law you got to jail for that.


Man people do like to pick and chose what laws people have abide by due to political beliefs....

Anna Ardin CIA asset. Has an extensive history within the CIA anti-Castro group operating in Havana and Miami.Sofia Wilen Dual MI6 asset and CIA informant.
http://www.rawstory.com/2010/12/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

 

[ncurd]

That's all speculation mate putting links together with zero evidence any of it is true.

What I find hilarious though is the left wing conspiracy angle when the left wing love Assange.

 

[Groundhog]

Just on Assange, what happened is that while in Stockholm hoping to set a base for Wikileaks Assange had consensual sex with two women seperately whose names are unknown. They both stated that it became non consensual after that. The warrent for his arrest has been twisted and dropped at numerous stages. At one stage the warrent for rape was withdrawn because there was little to no evidence that rape had occurred but he was still wanted for questioning over molestation and coercion. That investigation was later reopened. Recently some of the less serious charges were dropped but the rape still stands. The U.N recently enough has ruled that Assange has been arbitrarily detained, and has had his rights infringed upon but the British government still insist they will arrest him if they can get him.
All a bit of a mess really, and certainly suspicous on the part of the Swedish authorities to my very untrained eye.

 

[ncurd]

I'm 100% convinced Trump used his words BECAUSE he knew they could/would be "misinterpreted". He lost ground for flaming a vet, a no-go with the rednecks ans now needs to gain grounds again, what probably will works as he now claims "everybody is against me".
Pretty clever move.

Anyway tired of arguing with a nut job.

Not really a clever move at all, the only people swayed already has his vote as they'd never vote Clinton anyway. They might be convinced not to stay at home though bit it's not a demographic he need to actually win the election.

A center right friend of mine (hates Trump and would rather a moderate Republican) believes Trump wants to loose. What started out as a publicity stunt of self promotion has gotten away from him he know he can't do most of the things he's promised so is a bit stuck. Which is why he went after people like McCain to try and drive people to Hillary who know that stuff is below the belt. I don't Ness axially agree with assessment but it's better than some other crackpot theories.

Personally I think he's spent to.long in corporate world where you can do pretty much what you like at the top.of ladder in terms of running the business. Like alot of execs he probably doesn't realise most of his employee think I'll of him. He interprets the fact he is doing moderate well off their backs as success. Which is all fine in corporate politics. As collegues put it companies are essentially mini dictatorships which makes sense when you look at Trump's actions.

Sadly for Trump those employees you step on in corporate world who have little say because they need jobs actually do have a say when it comes to elections.

 

[ncurd]

Just on Assange, what happened is that while in Stockholm hoping to set a base for Wikileaks Assange had consensual sex with two women seperately whose names are unknown. They both stated that it became non consensual after that. The warrent for his arrest has been twisted and dropped at numerous stages. At one stage the warrent for rape was withdrawn because there was little to no evidence that rape had occurred but he was still wanted for questioning over molestation and coercion. That investigation was later reopened. Recently some of the less serious charges were dropped but the rape still stands. The U.N recently enough has ruled that Assange has been arbitrarily detained, and has had his rights infringed upon but the British government still insist they will arrest him if they can get him.
All a bit of a mess really, and certainly suspicous on the part of the Swedish authorities to my very untrained eye.

I know quite a few lawyers all disagree with the UN assessment.

Assange has a European arrest warrant out which we are legally required to carry out if we know his whereabouts. If we raise one we'd expect other nations to do the same.

Assange chooses to remain inside the EcuadorIan embassy due to the diplomatic immunity it provides in our juristriction. International law prevent us entering and arresting Assange.

As far as the British are concerned Assange can either leave the Ecuadorian embassy and submit himself to the legal system. Or Sweden can drop the charges. Until either is done our position remains the same there is arrested warrant for him and he will be arrested.

It is not our place to question the validity of the warrant as the while point is stop lengthy and expensive extradition trials with countries we no have due process and their human rights won't be quashed.

The UN ruling calls into question either the European Arrest Warrant or our ability to arrest someone in an embassy. The British government is completely in catch 22 here they get into trouble no mattee what they do.

The other stuff about the case it doesn't look good on Swedes part but is should be noted he's not been charged he's wanted for questioning. Also the other 3 counts weren't dropped the statue.of.limitations ended which is very different.

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Also to note we really don't know what the Swedish police have of Assange to warrent this action. Anything said is.merely speculation.

 

[Bee]

Anyway tired of arguing with a nut job.

Not really a clever move at all, the only people swayed already has his vote as they'd never vote Clinton anyway. They might be convinced not to stay at home though bit it's not a demographic he need to actually win the election.

A center right friend of mine (hates Trump and would rather a moderate Republican) believes Trump wants to loose. What started out as a publicity stunt of self promotion has gotten away from him he know he can't do most of the things he's promised so is a bit stuck. Which is why he went after people like McCain to try and drive people to Hillary who know that stuff is below the belt. I don't Ness axially agree with assessment but it's better than some other crackpot theories.

Personally I think he's spent to.long in corporate world where you can do pretty much what you like at the top.of ladder in terms of running the business. Like alot of execs he probably doesn't realise most of his employee think I'll of him. He interprets the fact he is doing moderate well off their backs as success. Which is all fine in corporate politics. As collegues put it companies are essentially mini dictatorships which makes sense when you look at Trump's actions.

Sadly for Trump those employees you step on in corporate world who have little say because they need jobs actually do have a say when it comes to elections.

Do you mistake me for being on the Trump bandcamp ?
;-)
You might want to read of my previous posts, then.
As I think that I am able to think further than some of the member of the BNP section of this boars, I'm more afraid of Trump being able to push the red button, than from Kim being able to.
Everybody seems to go "he's not going to be elected anyway", "he does want to lose", but we might keep in mind that there is a huge possibility that he really might become commander in chief...

 

[ncurd]

Sorry considered putting it before your quote but my phones a pain for that editing.

Should read "Tired of arguing with a nut job so I'll talk to someone with a brain instead."