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todd will start before savea. todds an established specialist fetcher
I get the feeling this will happen too. But it leaves the question, which loose forward misses out on the 23?
 

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I get the feeling this will happen too. But it leaves the question, which loose forward misses out on the 23?
kaino's gotta play. its still his jersey despite fifita and squire knocking and imo kaino's still got the goods. for fear factor kaino has it over the other two
 

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you're probably right but i hope your wrong, kaino's game has definitely been dropping in my opinion and we have two other guys on the up, i would very much prefer they got as much experience between now and the next world cup as possible
 

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kaino's gotta play. its still his jersey despite fifita and squire knocking and imo kaino's still got the goods. for fear factor kaino has it over the other two
Again, I agree. For me Kaino is still the man at 6, though Squire has been very impressive and is very close to overtaking him. During Super Rugby Kaino was still a beast and he has hardly ever let us down in black. Also, Shag is loyal so I don't see him leaving Kaino in the cold.
So I guess that means we're putting Ardie on the bench and leaving Fifita out?
 

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Again, I agree. For me Kaino is still the man at 6, though Squire has been very impressive and is very close to overtaking him. During Super Rugby Kaino was still a beast and he has hardly ever let us down in black. Also, Shag is loyal so I don't see him leaving Kaino in the cold.
So I guess that means we're putting Ardie on the bench and leaving Fifita out?

There's a chance that Tuipulotu is left out of the 23 instead of Fifita.
 

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There's a chance that Tuipulotu is left out of the 23 instead of Fifita.
I did think about that but highly doubt it because Hansen has said he doesn't consider Fifita a lock at all at test level plus they'll be wanting to get big Patty in there. Is definitely an option though...
 

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Aussies with a pretty predictable line up:



And likewise with the ABs...

 

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strong AB's team, think might get a little loose late in the game, have Perenara and DMac played as a combo?
 

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For the Northern tour. Big surprise that Todd got in. And a Bolger in Papalii. Further 19 to go and cover the Japan game.

Hookers
Dane Coles (31, Wellington, 56)
Nathan Harris (26, Bay of Plenty, 18)
Codie Taylor (27, Canterbury, 38)

Props
Owen Franks (30, Canterbury, 103)
Nepo Laulala (27, Counties Manukau, 13)
Joe Moody (30, Canterbury, 36)
Karl Tu'inukuafe (25, North Harbour, 9)
Ofa Tuungafasi (26, Auckland, 22)

Locks
Scott Barrett (23, Taranaki, 14)
Brodie Retallick (27, Hawke's Bay, 71)
Patrick Tuipulotu (25, Auckland, 19)
Samuel Whitelock (30, Canterbury, 105)

Loose Forwards
Vaea Fifita (26, Wellington, 7)
Dalton Papalii (21, Auckland, uncapped)
Kieran Read, captain (32, Counties Manukau, 114)
Ardie Savea (25, Wellington, 31)
Liam Squire (27, Tasman, 20)
Matt Todd (30, Canterbury, 14)

Backs:

Halfbacks
TJ Perenara (26, Wellington, 51)
Aaron Smith (28, Manawatu, 79)
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (23, Taranaki, 1)

First five–eighths
Beauden Barrett (27, Taranaki, 69)
Damian McKenzie (23, Waikato, 19)
Richie Mo'unga (24, Canterbury, 4)

Midfielders
Ryan Crotty (30, Canterbury, 41)
Jack Goodhue (23, Northland, 5)
Anton Lienert-Brown (23, Waikato, 30)
Sonny Bill Williams (33, Counties Manukau, 49)

Outside backs
Jordie Barrett (21, Taranaki, 7)
Rieko Ioane (21, Auckland, 20)
Waisake Naholo (27, Taranaki, 24)
Ben Smith (32, Otago, 73)
 

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not surprised about Todd, heard it through the grapevine he was in last week

surprised about Ioane thou, he's well out off the selectors minds, must not be listening to advice about what he needs to be doing for the black jersery

the boy Papalii is really good, big kid, intelligent, good attitude, future star

Ben Lam can probably feel a little disappointed, tailed off towards the end of super rugby tho and Georgey Bridge is bloody awesome
 

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For the Northern tour. Big surprise that Todd got in. And a Bolger in Papalii. Further 19 to go and cover the Japan game.

Hookers
Dane Coles (31, Wellington, 56)
Nathan Harris (26, Bay of Plenty, 18)
Codie Taylor (27, Canterbury, 38)

Props
Owen Franks (30, Canterbury, 103)
Nepo Laulala (27, Counties Manukau, 13)
Joe Moody (30, Canterbury, 36)
Karl Tu'inukuafe (25, North Harbour, 9)
Ofa Tuungafasi (26, Auckland, 22)

Locks
Scott Barrett (23, Taranaki, 14)
Brodie Retallick (27, Hawke's Bay, 71)
Patrick Tuipulotu (25, Auckland, 19)
Samuel Whitelock (30, Canterbury, 105)

Loose Forwards
Vaea Fifita (26, Wellington, 7)
Dalton Papalii (21, Auckland, uncapped)
Kieran Read, captain (32, Counties Manukau, 114)
Ardie Savea (25, Wellington, 31)
Liam Squire (27, Tasman, 20)
Matt Todd (30, Canterbury, 14)

Backs:

Halfbacks
TJ Perenara (26, Wellington, 51)
Aaron Smith (28, Manawatu, 79)
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (23, Taranaki, 1)

First five–eighths
Beauden Barrett (27, Taranaki, 69)
Damian McKenzie (23, Waikato, 19)
Richie Mo'unga (24, Canterbury, 4)

Midfielders
Ryan Crotty (30, Canterbury, 41)
Jack Goodhue (23, Northland, 5)
Anton Lienert-Brown (23, Waikato, 30)
Sonny Bill Williams (33, Counties Manukau, 49)

Outside backs
Jordie Barrett (21, Taranaki, 7)
Rieko Ioane (21, Auckland, 20)
Waisake Naholo (27, Taranaki, 24)
Ben Smith (32, Otago, 73)

Some squad

EDIT: That means it's good just in case there's any confusion.
 
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