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Andy Robinson Quits as Scotland Coach

RWC2011Fan said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20484998
Wow...

Did they really play that badly against Tonga? Just curious since I didn't see the game.
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It was a similar performance to what we've seen from Scotland before. 60% possession and territory but an incapability to break past the Tongan defence. Some thought that they may have finally rediscovered the ability to score after some improved attacking performances against France and New Zealand this year and a more exciting back three with Hogg and Visser and Laidlaw a better passer than Parks. But they reverted back to what we have seen so often from them, terrible inefficient bluntness.

Give the Tongan defence credit though, this is the second match in a row I've seen them do a lot of defending and they haven't conceded many points.
 
Scott "The Assassin" Johnson for now.
Inevitably, Nick Mallet and Eddie O'Sullivan will be linked to it.
 
Draggs said:
Scott "The Assassin" Johnson for now.
Inevitably, Nick Mallet and Eddie O'Sullivan will be linked to it.
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I heard Scott Johnson was the early favourite too to step up. That would be a daft appointment in my opinion, and I think it could be another Matt Williams-esque reign.

I honestly don't think Robinson did a bad job. Just the team isn't so good. The SRU better make sure they make a good appointment, otherwise we could see a barren few years for Scotland imo if they get another Matt Williams/Frank Hadden standard coach in.
 
i personally think everyones abit harsh on scotland... i think they now have the tools to be a dangerous team... obvioulsy lack in key positions such as centre... whoever is in charge would like to see more expansive rugby use the newly found attacking weapons we have, also whoever is appointed needs to finnally get rid of de luca and co maybe that could help aswell haha
 
Wonder if O'Sullivan is already been snatched by Connacht, it would be a shame to lose another decent (you may doubt him, but he is the most successful Irish coach ever) Irish coach to abroad. He is very good with his backs and can plan for the future very well which would be great for Scotland. He'd be my tip for it if Connacht doesn't get him.
 
The opportunity to prove that they can succeed where Andy Robinson and others have failed will prove a big motivation for any coach, and the chance to do so with a team currently ranked 12th in the world but with the talent clearly to be better will appeal to a few characters.
SEAN LINEEN (Evens)
The early favourite is Sean Lineen, the former Glasgow coach controversially dropped by the SRU into a new scouting/age grade role in the summer, which he is now, ironically, beginning to develop successfully. With nine years of professional coaching on top of six years in the club game with Boroughmuir, the former Scotland centre is the most well-equipped inside the country to step up.
BRYAN REDPATH (5/1)
The former Scotland captain and scrum-half moved from Gloucester to Sale controversially in the summer, and after a dreadful start to the league season was recently demoted from director of rugby to [FONT=inherit !important][FONT=inherit !important]head [FONT=inherit !important]coach[/FONT][/FONT]. He has the experience and passion, and Sale owner Brian Kennedy may see it as a good way to help Redpath and Scottish rugby while easing the coach out of a four-year contract.[/FONT]
ALAN TAIT (33/1)
Former Newcastle head coach was Scotland assistant with Ian McGeechan and Frank Hadden and knows international game as well as anyone. A high-scoring Scotland and British and Irish Lions cap, Tait stepped down as Newcastle Falcons chief earlier this year.
SCOTT JOHNSON (4/1)
Current Scotland assistant coach is known as a maverick character and has divided opinion in previous roles with the Wallabes, Wales, USA and Ospreys, but the former Australia Under-21 fly-half is popular among Scottish players and has quickly made a positive impression on SRU chief executive Mark Dodson.
WAYNE SMITH (5/1)
Smith was in Scotland at the invitation of the SRU last month and proved popular in two weeks working with the pro team coaches, and club, schools and youth coaches. He turned down Jim Telfer for the Borders job in 2001 but told The Scotsman last month that he would not rule out a return to Test rugby. His family hail from Peterhead.
NICK MALLET (25/1)
Another probably on Mark Dodson's 'big-name' radar, the former Springbok coach returned to South Africa last year after ending a four-year period in charge of Italy, insisting that he wanted to spend more time with his family in Cape Town after nearly 15 years coaching the Boks, Stade Francais and the Azzurri.
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http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby...lead-early-contenders-for-scots-job-1-2659032
Choices and odds by the Scotsman
 
psychic duck said:
I heard Scott Johnson was the early favourite too to step up. That would be a daft appointment in my opinion, and I think it could be another Matt Williams-esque reign.

I honestly don't think Robinson did a bad job. Just the team isn't so good. The SRU better make sure they make a good appointment, otherwise we could see a barren few years for Scotland imo if they get another Matt Williams/Frank Hadden standard coach in.
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I'd take Andy at the Dragons. You can only coach what is in front of you, he really didn't have much to work with.
 
Draggs said:
I'd take Andy at the Dragons. You can only coach what is in front of you, he really didn't have much to work with.
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That would be a great deal for the Dragons, getting rid of Edwards and getting Robinson. Especially since Robinson is a forwards specialist and that is where the Dragons need a big improvement in particular. He did a good job with Edinburgh as well, getting them to second in the league one season and of course he coached Bath to Heineken Cup glory. I think he would be an improvement on all of the Welsh regions coaches tbh.
 
I wanted us to bring Ringo in (actually, I wanted the bugger to stay with us) as well.
Our backs have the penetration of a marzipan dildo (except for Chavhanga, I love that man, same goes for Little Will).
 
Tough loss for Scotland, We need a good coach to continue with Andy's vision.
 
I was upset with to find out he had quit as he was really starting to build the foundations of a decent international team with the likes of Visser, Hogg, Gray, Denton and they have finally found a good distributing flyhalf in laidlow. There performance was brilliant against the all blacks yes they lost by loads but they played good attacking rugby and even scored try's from both forwards and backs which hasn't really happened for sometime at murrayfield.
 
To echo the sentiments of this thread the failings of Scotland have little to do with Robinson. With no centres, outhalf or front row you will not be able to compete at international level. All things considered some of the results he achieved are nothing short of remarkable.
 
TRF_Feicarsinn said:
To echo the sentiments of this thread the failings of Scotland have little to do with Robinson. With no centres, outhalf or front row you will not be able to compete at international level. All things considered some of the results he achieved are nothing short of remarkable.
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A bit harsh on the front row. Scotland have held their own at scrums for the majority of the time of late, it's not outstanding, but it isn't a glaring weakness either. Agree on the centres though, when you consider that de Luca has 37 caps now that says all you need to know.

Interesting fact by the way, Scotland has not had a back from a position other than scrum half called up to a Lions tour since 1997. I wonder whether they will get any on tour next year.
 
just saw a report in NZ linking Graham Henry and Wayne Smith to the job, that could be interesting
 
psychic duck said:
A bit harsh on the front row. Scotland have held their own at scrums for the majority of the time of late, it's not outstanding, but it isn't a glaring weakness either. Agree on the centres though, when you consider that de Luca has 37 caps now that says all you need to know.

Interesting fact by the way, Scotland has not had a back from a position other than scrum half called up to a Lions tour since 1997. I wonder whether they will get any on tour next year.
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I never knew that i had always Assumed that paterson had toured with them.

I think scotland have had a problem like italy they have around 5 or 6 World class players about 8 decent international players and around 2 or 3 just not up to test match rugby. they always seem to be ok in scrums from what i can remember but have sometimes struggled to find a replacement for sunday games with murray unavailable at tighthead
 
Henry is another, forgot about him.
Thank god Kirwan has a job.

We can send Stan to the SRU to help rebuild. Our gift to Scottish rugby.
 

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