Argentina vs England - 18/07/26

[Wasps92]

10 penalties against so far.

I’m sick and tired of Borthwick.

 

[mkersyshull]

Not sure you can blame coaching for that yellow. The players aren't helping him here

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Great from Chessum.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

If l speak

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

No arguments with that yellow

Deflects off his hand, not at all a deliberate knock on. He puts his hand up to stop the pass and he throws it anyway. Knock on or a penalty only for me.

 

[BMatt]

Now that's a harsh yellow card.

It's consistent with how those knock ons are almost always reffed.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Deflects off his hand, not at all a deliberate knock on. He puts his hand up to stop the pass and he throws it anyway. Knock on or a penalty only for me.

That's a pretty good definition of a deliberate knock on TBH.

The only issue is that they call it "deliberate" not "unrealistic attempt to catch"

 

[ncurd]

Deflects off his hand, not at all a deliberate knock on. He puts his hand up to stop the pass and he throws it anyway. Knock on or a penalty only for me.

A knock on with one arm outstretched during a opposition pass has been judged a YC and a deliberate knock on for well over a decade.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's not a ruck, so there's no offside line??

 

[ncurd]

Now this is diffrent he clearly tries to swipe it backward.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Now that one much more harsh to call a deliberate knock on, as he's clearly trying to knock it back (but also deliberately swiping at the ball, and failing)...

From an offside position

 

[Saintjay]

No chance that was a nailed on try.

 

[TopTen2003]

Discipline when we’re under any attacking pressure is absolutely awful.

It’s an absolute DNA of this side under Borthwick and he’s on borrowed time if we lose tonight IMO.

Players are letting him down but there’s no way they’d get away with this in the NZ set up IMO- you either get a handle on it or you go.

Something fundamentally wrong with the preparation, mindset or structurally for this to keep happening.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Yeah I’m confused, no ruck, no offside and he’s allowed to try and block an offload.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

That's a pretty good definition of a deliberate knock on TBH.

The only issue is that they call it "deliberate" not "unrealistic attempt to catch"

Maybe I'm not being clear about what I think, when I say "to stop the pass" I mean he had his hands up already - like every player does to stop a pass overhead. Argentinian player then throws a risky pass anyway and it deflects.

Its like the yellow in the first half I suppose, letter of the law but not the spirit of the law.

 

[BMatt]

His hand is.moving backwards so it can't be a deliberate knock on.

 

[Wasps92]

******* brain dead idiot.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Here’s Henry to add to the fun.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I just don’t understand why we’ve changed our style of play so much after doing so well in the first half. That must be Borthwick.

I hate him.

 

[ncurd]

If hes offside thats completely fair.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Clearly they were able to hide the players from Borthwick before the game but at half time he finally got hold of them to impart his coaching prowess

 

[Wasps92]

So that’s now 12 yellow cards this year and how many penalties have we given away in this game now? 13?

Get that utter charlatan out of his ******* job.

 

[Saintjay]

That is England. Guy who runs the lineout is off. Nobody else steps up.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

"I'm having a lot of issues talking to the director"

No issues when England infringed lol

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Argentinian off his feet and yet holding on called?

He’s home full bias anti English now.

 

[mkersyshull]

"I'm having a lot of issues talking to the director"

No issues when England infringed lol

The offside TMOs should help this

 

[Rinkadink]

I think they need to go further with the TV direction.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Jack Willis watching that and not regretting his decision to stay in France

 

[AlRums]

No arguments with that yellow

 

[Rinkadink]

So if a serious injury has occurred that's a red? If it isn't, it's a yellow?