Fiji vs England - 11/7/26

[TRF_Olyy]

 

[Welsh Exile]

I expect Fiji to be a lot better than there were against us. England should still win but I wouldn’t be gobsmacked if Fiji are winning at HT.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I will wait until teams are named before deciding who I am supporting

 

[Welsh Exile]

I will wait until teams are named before deciding who I am supporting

What are your redlines? Adam Beard?

 

[wombles]

I cannot see Fiji being that inaccurate 2 weeks in a row. England….well, they need to show something more multilayered & dynamic. Borthwick has to be on the edge of going, his pragmatism is choking England.
Make no odds about it, England have a squad that has huge potential with a very high ceiling of performance, not just in the short term either. I truly think the handbreak to it all is Borthwick & Wigglesworth. If the England hierarchy get the coaching ticket right, this squad could take off.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I cannot see Fiji being that inaccurate 2 weeks in a row. England….well, they need to show something more multilayered & dynamic. Borthwick has to be on the edge of going, his pragmatism is choking England.
Make no odds about it, England have a squad that has huge potential with a very high ceiling of performance, not just in the short term either. I truly think the handbreak to it all is Borthwick & Wigglesworth. If the England hierarchy get the coaching ticket right, this squad could take off.

Calling it pragmatism is generous. Devoid of creativity would seem more apt.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What are your redlines? Adam Beard?

I wish nothing but pain and misfortune on any 23 containing BJVR

Luckily, with this coaching setup, I don't have to wish too hard

 

[mackerzz]

I wish nothing but pain and misfortune on any 23 containing BJVR

Luckily, with this coaching setup, I don't have to wish too hard

Interesting add i got shown above this comment

 

[TRF_Olyy]

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Probiotics for the England fans struggling to stomach how embarrassing our Union is

 

[AlRums]

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I get this, quite prescient as well.

 

[AlRums]

I wish nothing but pain and misfortune on any 23 containing BJVR

Luckily, with this coaching setup, I don't have to wish too hard

Why are you all fixated on BJVR at the moment?

He's still not eligible to play for England.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Why are you all fixated on BJVR at the moment?

He's still not eligible to play for England.

His eligibility kicks in tomorrow

 

[mackerzz]

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I get this, quite prescient as well.

same lol

 

[AlRums]

His eligibility kicks in tomorrow

Changed then, it was November

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c058ll785j1o

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Guessing they fudged the paperwork to claim he moved here, permanently, earlier in the year

 

[mkersyshull]

I fully understand being frustrated (even angry) at players/coaches/the situation. But when it comes.to the game, I really don't understand wanting England to loose

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I fully understand being frustrated (even angry) at players/coaches/the situation. But when it comes.to the game, I really don't understand wanting England to loose

It’s an odd feeling but for the good of England long term I’d lose every game if it made the RFU sign a decent coach.

Borthwick has made watching England boring and I now have incredibly low expectations.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

It’s an odd feeling but for the good of England long term I’d lose every game if it made the RFU sign a decent coach.

Borthwick has made watching England boring and I now have incredibly low expectations.

We went through the same with Jones too.

Borthwick and his coaching set up aren’t right. Don’t think anyone’s disagreeing with that now.

But I still do wonder about the role of the senior players. We see precious little on field leadership from them and we’ve heard very little in the way of offield rumblings. Itoje, George, Genge, Ford, Curry etc are all players with enough experience and secure enough in their status to be able to properly challenge the coaches. Are they?

 

[Reiser99]

Yeah. At this point we aren't going to win anything of note and more likely to have more record defeats. There is very little positive for an England fan right now other than Wales being shitter and that could change at this rate. We have to wait until the RFU are willing to take action and that doesn't seem to be until after the world cup. I will continue to support England during the match, but I honestly don't mind them losing if it would force a change.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Yeah. At this point we aren't going to win anything of note and more likely to have more record defeats. There is very little positive for an England fan right now other than Wales being shitter and that could change at this rate. We have to wait until the RFU are willing to take action and that doesn't seem to be until after the world cup. I will continue to support England during the match, but I honestly don't mind them losing if it would force a change.

And maybe that’s what Tom Willis wasn’t that bothered about staying and losing for England.

 

[Saintjay]

Didn't realise England lost Joe Lewis to SA at the start of the year.

Steve might as well start Emailing Rassie what will be doing every game till the RWC.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Didn't realise England lost Joe Lewis to SA at the start of the year.

Steve might as well start Emailing Rassie what will be doing every game till the RWC.

If Rassie has Microsoft excel he already knew what we would do anyhow.

I might start calling Borthwick Dr Data

 

[Ddanno]

I might start calling Borthwick Dr Data

He's doing a solid supervillain job on us yeah

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

And maybe that’s what Tom Willis wasn’t that bothered about staying and losing for England.

In which case he can give me the lottery numbers. He announced he was off in October at which point we’d won 7 consecutively including our best 6N finish in years and would go on to win 4 more.

While fans acknowledged some of the wins weren’t against great opponents, I don’t think many really foresaw what was to come in the 6N either.

While never a SB fan, at one point I really did think he was learning and starting to get a grip, but that’s so 2025.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Did not realise this game is in Liverpool.

Didn't world rugby announce a few years ago that they want to cut carbon emissions 50%. They've probably doubled them with this championship lol

 

[Wasps92]

Would take a defeat if it meant the end of this Head Coach.

 

[Welsh Exile]

2 losses and he’s definitely gone. I can’t imagine they’ll sack him straight after a loss against Fiji. Would be interesting what they’d do if Fiji won but then England smashed Argentina the following week. I think they may give him the autumn games in that scenario but **** knows. You get the feeling it’s close, though.

 

[BrokenWing]

I can’t imagine they’ll sack him straight after a loss against Fiji.

They didn’t last time.

 

[Ddanno]

Oh aye, I'm completely resigned to the fact that we're stuck with him until our '27 WC debacle concludes. Hopefully him, Sweeney and the "I can fail to coach anything" Wiggler will be hurled into the job centre after our glorious group stage exit.

 

[Saintjay]

Three and a half years and we are no further forward. But we've got "All Court Game" now according to Wiggie. (Green bibs starting me thinks)


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