Best Frontrow

[Teh Mite]

Almost as much as he loves being an idiot.

You'd know a thing or 2 about that.

 

[superprop]

Caught me there as I've spent my life observing them. Which is actually why I go on this forum

 

[Teh Mite]

If that's your opinion, maybe you'd find more suitable challenger to your obviously high intellect elsewhere. Toodle pip.

 

[superprop]

Great insult. Not everyone is an idiot just a few. Who they are I will not say except osulli mi and the tadginator.

 

[Teh Mite]

And that's all I needed to know...

 

[superprop]

For what.

 

[eot345]

best scrummaging front row

Like all front rows i have a bit of a scrum fetish ans so i got to wondering what is the Best front row in the world to have come scrum time i think it would go something like this

1. Tonga'Hui
2.Stephen Moore/ Steve Thompson (yes i no he is old but he can still scrummage)
3.Martin Castro Giovani (i would say Nicholas Mas but having seen him get steam rolered by Tong'Hui im not so sure)

anyway Discuss

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Mujati is a better scrummager than Castro, I reckon

 

[Draggs]

Gethin Jenkins
Matthew Rees
Adam Jones

No, I'm not biased.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Does the hooker have a hugely important job in the scrum? (apart from hooking ) because they never get praised around scrums only critsized.

 

[superprop]

Does the hooker have a hugely important job in the scrum? (apart from hooking ) because they never get praised around scrums only critsized.

Yes if a team deploy the French arrowhead technique. If Northampton had a hooker who could scrummage instead of one who just stood up they'd get pushover trys from they're 5m line. Also didn't I start an incredibly similar thread to this in one of my past lives.

1. Tonga'uiha
2. Servat (under the French system it's pretty much an extra prop)
3. Jones (if fit. If not Haymans or Ross in terms of scrummaging.)

Give it 10 yrs and I should be there. Oh yeah.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

1. Domingo
2. Servat
3. Mas

Barring that what Draggs said.

 

[merrisian]

So, question for you front-rowers out there (or ay least those with small enough fingers to type). We need to get rid of the 'hit'. Its got nothing to do with scrummaging.....watched the '91 final agan on ESPN Classic. No dropped scrums cos they just packed down. So....my question....Tug o' War, Arm-wrestling....2 sports operating under Newton's 1st law just like the scrum.Why not start the engage by sayng "take the strain"-front rows bind together,then "scrum"-normal hostilities ensue? Rules out the hit, allows props to be props again.

 

[Teh Mite]

The're nothing wrong with the hit, we need to reverse the pathetic crouch-pause-tough-pause-pause-pause-pause-pause-engage which cause the problems while educating the ref to look at the thing.

Crouch-Hold-Engage Problem solved.

 

[merrisian]

Don't agree.... if the hit is ok, why do the (vast?) majority of scrums hit the deck on engage....cos one of the props has got the drop on his opposite number at the hit. Best to reduce the number of thngs a front row have to think about.

 

[Teh Mite]

Because the've been there crouching and holding for half an eternity and/or gamesmanship has crept into the game as refs don't know who to tell a genuine fall from an illegal drop.

 

[JW.]

Because the've been there crouching and holding for half an eternity and/or gamesmanship has crept into the game as refs don't know who to tell a genuine fall from an illegal drop.

Thats a good point actually, they get to much time to think about it! Problem solved. Next?

Might owe some NZ's an apology about O.Franks he's better than I thought, Woodcock cracked today Franks back was deadstraight almost all of the time, you've got a good one there.

 

[dan the man nz]

gethin jenkins
du plessis
owen franks

 

[Deadmonton]

What the hell is the arrowhead system? Google doesn't turn anything up.

 

[Aout]

Like all front rows i have a bit of a scrum fetish ans so i got to wondering what is the Best front row in the world to have come scrum time i think it would go something like this

1. Tonga'Hui
2.Stephen Moore/ Steve Thompson (yes i no he is old but he can still scrummage)
3.Martin Castro Giovani (i would say Nicholas Mas but having seen him get steam rolered by Tong'Hui im not so sure)

anyway Discuss

Nicolas Mas was injured when France played against Tonga, he wasn't on the pitch...

http://www.espnscrum.com/2011-rugby-world-cup/rugby/match/93492.html

There's no doubt he's the best prop of the tournament, and over the last 4 years he has easily been the best prop in the world.