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Wonder how much Ford, Dan, Hill, Fisilau, Ojomoh, Steward, Clark and Sela have enjoyed their intercontinental training trip. Think I’m right in saying not a minute’s game time between them. Not to mention the call ups of CCS and Roebuck.

Maybe someone Sela’s age doesn’t mind so much, but got to be pretty dispiriting.
 
Wonder how much Ford, Dan, Hill, Fisilau, Ojomoh, Steward, Clark and Sela have enjoyed their intercontinental training trip. Think I’m right in saying not a minute’s game time between them. Not to mention the call ups of CCS and Roebuck.

Maybe someone Sela’s age doesn’t mind so much, but got to be pretty dispiriting.
Just the usual **** poor man management from England.
 
I think Borthwick knows his neck is on the block. Wins and performances matter.

He could have thrown them to the wolves vs SA. Nobody expected us to win. In theory they should have been good enough to beat Fiji.

Still if he doesn't have an idea of his world cup 23 now then who knows. We desperately need some continuity.
 
Just the usual **** poor man management from England.
Honestly I'm not sure it is...but it doesn't make it not his fault.

By that i mean hes done terribly over the past few years so we are in a position where we need to get a solid first team that's experienced and playing well together before we can do what SA do and use fringe players with a strong core of first teamers.

Right now hes doing what he has to do imo, maybe could look at 1 or 2 but the reason it's right now is because he do so badly before.
 
100% caused his own issues. Fiji was the game to try anyone but he’s obviously under pressure so is looking to win every game he can with his first team.

Can’t wait until we go to a WC with Dan as our only experienced hooker when George and LCD get broken.

We are back in the jones era of blocking depth in certain positions.
 
I think Borthwick knows his neck is on the block. Wins and performances matter.

He could have thrown them to the wolves vs SA. Nobody expected us to win. In theory they should have been good enough to beat Fiji.

Still if he doesn't have an idea of his world cup 23 now then who knows. We desperately need some continuity.
Agreed, we've got a coach who's desperate for a win and has no idea what his best team is. He's just hoping for the best.
 
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I think Borthwick knows what his best team looks like.
His problem is that the players available don't look like that...

This does not say good things about him, or that he'd be successful if he did actually have the players he wants.

If he was head coach of South Africa, they'd probably still be top 4, but it wouldn't be comfortable.
 
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I think Borthwick knows what his best team looks like.
His problem is that the players available don't look like that...

This does not say good things about him, or that he'd be successful if he did actually have the players he wants.

If he was head coach of South Africa, they'd probably still be top 4, but it wouldn't be comfortable.
You honestly think he knows he best centre combo or possibly even his best wing combo for that?
 

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