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I doubt we'll break 40, will be happy to break 30.

We've played some fairly poor Bath teams at the rec and not had it all go our way. Last week is also terrible prep, a highly emotionally charged performance against a sub-p ar side.

Having said that, anything short of a BP win won't be a great result.
 
Depends on the teams dunnit? Been a bit hard to predict when clubs are semi-randomly picking when they feel like caring about these pool games.

For what it's worth, the biggest bookies' handicap is on Toulouse, not Leinster.
 
Pretty sure Bath's training this week will be how to look sad but not too sad under the posts.
To be fair, Bath consistently train very very well. We always hear how fantastic the lads were in training. Hell if there was a cup for training by jove we would be at the top!
 
So Barbeary may not travel to Munster as following 'return to play' protocols but has ticked off Wednesday's boxes.

However, we will have 7 players back now. We are likely to have Tom West, Gabriel Oghre, Jeffrey Toomaga-Allen, Elliott Stooke, Vaea Fifita and Elliot Millar-Mills all available and with James Gaskell, Ryan Mills, Rob Miller, Paolo Odogwu and Ben Morris all back.

The only other two doubts are Cruse and T Willis. Fekitoa and Launchbury expected back for Sarries and J Willis a little longer.

Likely line up: Martinez, Frost, Alo, Vaea Fifita, Elliott Stooke, Young, Shields, Barbeary, Robson, Atkinson, Gopps, Odogwu, Bassett, Kibrigie, Crossdale

Subs: West, Oghre, JTA, Gaskell, Carr, Porter, Mills, Watson

Could be a chance of a decent run out.
 
Toulouse have a big outbreak in their camp and are already down 10 players including Dupont. Could see them having to forfeit, which may put Cardiff in a good position to sneak into the knockouts Sale style.

As for us, I would expect us to win, but I don't think it will be a BP or anything like it. Wasps should have their tails up and have a rake of players back fit. Our team will be similar to last week. We may get a few guys like Nash, Jenkins and Cloete back, but I doubt any of them make the team. Only injury forced by last week is maybe Niall Scannell, who is supposedly touch and go with a shoulder injury. Would be happy to see Barron anyway, even if he had a shaky start when he came on last week. I think/hope that how good Hodnett was off the bench last week might earn him a start in a game where we are already through. I'm being overly optimistic that Buckley makes the bench in case of Scannell being out, but O'Byrne a player I really liked is very out of favor. Ditto for Ahern, I think it will be Fineen on the bench as Kleyn comes back into the starting side.

I imagine we will go

Mike Haley, Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Jack Crowley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell/Diarmuid Barron, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne, Peter O'Mahony, John Hodnett, Gavin Coombes.

Replacements: Diarmuid Barron/Scott Buckley, Jeremy Loughman, John Ryan, Tom Ahern, Jack O'Donoghue, Craig Casey, Jake Flannery, Shane Daly.
 
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It's a meh from me dawg. Did not know Healy was back fit. Would have preferred to leave Crowley at it while he's building form.
 
15. Hugo Keenan (37)

14. Jordan Larmour (68)

13. Garry Ringrose (93)

12. Robbie Henshaw (59)

11. Jimmy O'Brien (40)

10. Johnny Sexton CAPTAIN (177)

9. Luke McGrath (159)


1. Andrew Porter (84)

2. Rónan Kelleher (32)

3. Michael Ala'alatoa (8)

4. Ross Molony (124)

5. Josh Murphy (51)

6. Caelan Doris (46)

7. Josh van der Flier (105)

8. Jack Conan (109)


Replacements:


16. Dan Sheehan (20)

17. Cian Healy (240)

18. Vakh Abdaladze (15)

19. Ryan Baird (35)

20. Max Deegan (73)

21. Jamison Gibson-Park (108)

22. Ross Byrne (113)

23. Ciarán Frawley (44)
 
15. Hugo Keenan (37)

14. Jordan Larmour (68)

13. Garry Ringrose (93)

12. Robbie Henshaw (59)

11. Jimmy O'Brien (40)

10. Johnny Sexton CAPTAIN (177)

9. Luke McGrath (159)


1. Andrew Porter (84)

2. Rónan Kelleher (32)

3. Michael Ala'alatoa (8)

4. Ross Molony (124)

5. Josh Murphy (51)

6. Caelan Doris (46)

7. Josh van der Flier (105)

8. Jack Conan (109)


Replacements:


16. Dan Sheehan (20)

17. Cian Healy (240)

18. Vakh Abdaladze (15)

19. Ryan Baird (35)

20. Max Deegan (73)

21. Jamison Gibson-Park (108)

22. Ross Byrne (113)

23. Ciarán Frawley (44)
So no Ryan, a little worrying. Still a strong team, as ever excellent front and back row.
 
Looks like Toulouse are forfeiting. If so they're out with either a losing BP for Wasps or a Stade bonus point win
 
(15-9) Mike Lowry, Robert Baloucoune, James Hume, Angus Curtis, Ethan McIlroy, Billy Burns, Nathan Doak;

(1-8) Eric O'Sullivan, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O'Connor (Capt.), Kieran Treadwell, Marcus Rea, Nick Timoney, Duane Vermeulen.

Replacements: John Andrew, Jack McGrath, Tom O'Toole, Sam Carter, Greg Jones, David Shanahan, Ben Moxham, Craig Gilroy
 

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