ok first off , sorry for creating a new topic. Ok just to explaine what i have done so that there is no confusing. 1) I have not changed the game mechanics in any way , so NO there is still things that irritates us all. 2) I have not been able to copy/paste some of the star players for example giving them a "big boot" like Dan Carter 3) I'm still having trouble understanding exactly what i found, but i will explaine all here. WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TODO. First off I noticed that some players are more prone to offload and to side step for example , Matt Giteau , so obviously i thought it was programmed into the core files like the big boot of Dan Carter. Same goes for teams like the All Blacks offloading more than for example England. So after playing around with woosahs editor I discovered that things like side-step , offload , and passing at the right time could be controlled with the editor , it's just a matter of how you do it. So I will not claim any holy-grail status if this turns out to help alot of people , I feel it was a collaborated effort by every one on this forum. So what have I changed? 1) Any Team/Player can now offload , dummy pass , side step like Matt Giteau and the AllBlacks , to the extend that they do it way more often --- which makes the game harder. 2) By getting the above right , I was able to make the game harder in the sence that you can now increase the speed of players so when they do a an offload or a break the line , that they have atleast a few meters between them and your defenders, which causes you the player to scramble more in defence. 3) By changing the speed of players I then created a situation where sometimes weaker teams can actually beat you , But THE GAME IS STILL BEATABLE, scores are just alot closer. So it still depends on the person editing the stats how the game will play , so no its not a patch , just a roster to show how you should edit your teams/players to make the game harder. But I think its a step in the right direction and with every-one on the forum I am sure we will be able to someday mod this game into a brilliant rugby game. PS this is only for Rugby 08 , i haven't tried it on Rugby 06 -- so it might even work better there. I will contact the creators of MUP 09 to see if they like it , and if they do maybe they can incorporate it into MUP to make the ultimate mod.