My Thought....

Discussion in 'Rugby Video Games & Apps' started by Boy, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Boy

    Boy Guest

    First off, a huge thank you to the guys at Swordfish for letting us come down today. Also, thanks to the secretary with the red hair; that sandwich was dynamite. Dan and I had a solid 3 hours on the game played on the coolest TV I have ever seen. We didn't have a list of controls, so it's very likely that there are things we didn't manage to discover. I'll try and tackle the queries you guys wanted answering.

    Like in WCR, really. DGs are pretty difficult, as you're always taking the ball at pace, but that's not always a bad thing. Grubbers and punts work in the same way as WCR, as I remember; holding down the button brings up a range-meter out in front of the kicker to direct the kick and show how far it's going.

    The goal-kicking is a new system, and it's pretty cool. You can choose where to place the ball, then select the direction and amount of power (0-100%). After that a swing-o-meter comes up, and you have to try and stop it in the middle. The speed of the swing depends on the amount of power and the skill of your kicker. It takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's a good change.

    By double/triple tapping pass, you can make huge mispasses, which makes for a good game. Sometimes, particularly at the base of a ruck/maul, the pass animation is a little bit odd, but I'm nitpicking. The offload system is really, really good. To start with you'll try it all the time, and the ball will probably go to ground, but timed right it's awesome. You can even offload out of a dump tackle, so while the other guy is celebrating a big hit, you can trot under the posts. Very good.

    The ruck system is the same as WCR, but the button-bashing has been toned way down. The scrum and maul system is another new aspect; a circle emerges above your team with a coloured quarter. A dot travels around the edge of the circle, and you have to hit X when the dot is in the coloured section. Sounds complicated, but it's really straight forward. Everytime you get it right it results in a shove forward.

    Sidesteps are R1 then L1, like WCR, but there are numerous animations. As well as the normal step (which ripped Dan apart in our first game, as Barkely carved up the Sarries midfield) and the spin that people like Robinson have, there's a step where you swing the ball around a bit Fijian style. The shouts of 'ole' while you do it are optional, but well worth it. Fends are made with O, but it's down to timing, and we didn't really get them to work much. The more powerful guys (everyone has a strength rating) bust through tackles after a split-second pause in contact.

    There are tons of tackle animations, from simply holding someone up for a maul, to ankle-taps. The big hit tackle isn't just limited to a shoulder barge that knocks out the ball, but also includes numerous driving tackles and dumps.

    The advantage doesn't last too long, but we were playing pretty frenetically, so we weren't sure whether it's due to time or playing advantage. There weren't a huge number of infringements in the games we played. I don't know if that's down to the fact that it's hard to give away penalties, or that we were playing champange rugby.

    The defense does line up about 10m back from the breakdown, but this doesn't happen when you get closer to the line. Dan was camped in my 22m for ages, and found it difficult to cross (although he did put 30 odd past me in one). We only played against CPU on Fun mode, so not sure how big of a threat they will be attacking-wise.

    The matchday squad is 22, and you can alter the starting XV prior to kick off. We didn't get a chance to look into editing the squads, but in career the squad is 25 (so you have 3 reserves). The squads are really up to date; Andy Farrell is included as an Outside Centre (someone wanted to know).

    In career, everyone gets the same basic squad (which includes Dan at prop and Rob at 8). You get to choose the name of your team, the home/away kits and all sorts. There are fitness/strength/skills coaches, and you have to look about how you're going to invest your money. We didn't get a chance to see if that included wages, but I assume you get more money from winning games. There is a transfer window at the start of the year. I think that at each window, there will be a different roster of free agents (where people who gave their details will appear at some point). I think that's right. If not, I'm sure I'll be corrected.

    Didn't get a chance to look at the Super 14 kits (they've got all sorts of crazy names, so I'm not sure who was who). The Aussie/NZ kits are just like WCR. In fact, I'm pretty sure the players names are the same (Sailor's Jeff Stanton, Gregan is Brian Dowling, like that gay guy who won Big Brother; accident?). Like WCR, you can tell who alot of them are.

    Off the top of my head, the licensed teams are England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Italy and a couple of other internationals. Didn't get a chance to see if the French teams we right, but the Celtic/GP teams certainly are. One point though; as the game's classed 3+, there's no alcohol sponsorship, so the likes of Bath, Bristol and Scotland won't have sponsors, but the kits are otherwise extremely accurate. The doesn't seem to be a problem with the Guiness Premiership being alcohol sponsorhip, so I don't know if London Irish will have Guiness on their shirts. England have their new shirts, but didn't see if Scotland did.

    I was sceptical when I heard the commentary was done by Inverdale and Dewi Morris, but it's actually very good (far better than WCR). The undoubted high point was when one game went to half time, Dewi Morris asked Inverdale if he fancied a pie. Ian assures us that there are plenty of bits like that hidden away.

    There are a ton of unlockables, which range from easy (we got the England 2003 squad by beating the CPU once) to damn near impossible (beat England with Fiji without passing left/win by only having possession once). You don't know exactly what you're going to unlock until you do it. The Classic teams you unlock can be used in friendlies.

    The only notable crowd chant was Swing Low.

    If you play at the Millenium Stadium in the day, the roof is open, but if you play at night, it's closed. Nice touch.

    You only have 6 stadiums to start with; Twickenham, Millenium Stadium, Lansdowne Road, Murrayfield, the Stade de Tournare (which sounds familiar) and another one I think is made up. There are 6 more to unlock.

    There are a few types of beard. Rob's differs greatly with Danny Grewcock's.

    The commentators didn't appear to have any trouble with the letter V.

    Just a couple of negatives (which I really had to look for); the ref and linesmen have their wrists and hands taped. Not sure why. Maybe they're doing a White Power demo, I'm not sure. One other thing that we noticed was that the ball carrier's legs can go into touch if they go into a ruck, but it won't be given as out unless the ball crosses the line. That's about the only real fault.

    That's about all I can remember now. I'm sure Dan will have other stuff in his review. I'll try and answer any questions you've got, but there was a lot in the game we didn't really have a chance to play with.
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  3. el_tk

    el_tk Guest

    Can you move players positions around in a match?
  4. richllew

    richllew Guest

    Was Lomu in the game (maybe a classic team)
  5. sarries fan

    sarries fan Guest

    sounds brill,
    cheers for the review mate
  6. Cheers for the review.
  7. Boy

    Boy Guest

    I'm pretty sure that you can. We didn't get a chance to try it out, but it looks like you can.

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    Not a clue. Only unlocked one team, and surprisingly, Lomu was nowhere to be seen in the 2003 England World Cup team.
  8. "Maybe they're doing a White Power demo, I'm not sure"

    OH YOU DID NOT!!!...

    allgud sounds good..very good
  9. raziel_eire

    raziel_eire Guest

    Cheers Boy - sounds good...

    ... now all we need is for it to be released - c'mon the 25th Nov (hopefully)
  10. sanzar

    sanzar Guest

    Sounds very cool! It's just a shame they couldn't get some of the SH licensing...
  11. raziel_eire

    raziel_eire Guest

    I like the idea of a whole new team for Career Mode; ala Master League from PES...

    ... now I can gain total rugby dominance by the 5th Irish Province; setup and run by yours truly

    - Sounds like you've done a good job on this Trev... congrats to you!

    ...come to think of it, we could even enter Quins in the game?... Trev can we use our Career Mode team in friendly/quick start games at all? (again similar to PES, where you can load the ML team from the mem card?)
  12. Nice, sounds like you had a great day. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Was Northampton on there? and was the offical kit included? and one more, what teams did you play with and where they all up 2 date with players, kits, and of course, facial graphics/look-a-likes?
  13. gjohn85

    gjohn85 Guest

    Did U play any international games? if so where the games different to club game, i.e more tighter & more tactical game?
  14. Boy

    Boy Guest

    There wasn't a great deal of tactics involved. It was more 'let's see if this works' type of thing. The international teams are all ranked a lot higher than the clubs, so a top international v club game would probably be pretty onsided.

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    Kits were bang on apart from alcohol sponsorship and the GP sides not having names on the back of their shirts. Saw Bath, Sarries and Bris, who were all really up to date. Bath didn't have Malone or Frikkie Welsh in their 22, but Finau (who was signed at the end of September) was in.

    You can definately recognise alot of the international players. People like Grewcock, Hodgson, Lewsey, Worsley... actually, all of the England team are facially very accurate. I assume that's the case with the other licensed teams, although perhaps not to the same extent.
  15. Thanks me boy...

    I'm looking forward to getting my hands on this baby now, sounds like no need for Rugby 2006 but...we will see.

    I even bought WCR today, as I am so desperate (good game, but as many have said...good in small bites)
  16. locksley

    locksley Guest

    Oops... I made the same mistake. Kerry is actually Trev's PA and NOT a secretary... at least that's what she said to me when she corrected me in an email! [​IMG]

    You're right, those butties (Northern slang for "sandwich") were amazing, but I thought Kerry's legs were the highlight of my visit to Swordfish! [​IMG]

    Nice review by the way, and it's good to see that teams have been updated since me and Knowsley played it. Andy Farrell's in now... Good god, I won't be purchasing that waste of money if he ever appears in my transfer window.
  17. sanzar

    sanzar Guest

    [​IMG] More impressive than the game aye?
  18. Boy

    Boy Guest

    You say potato, I say potato.

    That really doesn't work in writing...
  19. paddyknight

    paddyknight Guest

    bit concerning about welsh and malone as they are our most regularly starting backs (sadly in the case of malone) and massive shame about finau...he scored something like a try a year in wales...crap! Are the players still kinda cartoony? and how many in the club teams have faces made...e.g i guess u;ll know with bath, how many 'generic' faces are there and how many r made?
  20. Boy

    Boy Guest

    People like Barks, Grewcock and Borthers are all easily recogniseable. Didn't get a decent enough look at anyone else. They've caught Higgins when he's still in 'Fro-mode before he dreaded-up.

    The players are a bit chunky still, not neccessarily cartoony. Some of the graphics are really good. I was amazed, as sad as it sounds, with the grass. It's extremely detailed.
  21. Ian2oo5

    Ian2oo5 Guest

    just a quick question.. I know aus/nz/saf are not liciensed teams so will any have a players list for these squads? also, what abt super14? guessing there all made up players. any1 got the teams list for these?

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