Discussion in 'Premiership Rugby / Premiership Cup' started by TRF_Olyy, May 25, 2019.
I see you’re speaking to other Chiefs supporters now... I thought what we had was special :’(
He’s just a side-chief!
A fair few people have been saying the play offs and the league should have 2 separate trophies. Exeter should win the league and if the little money spinning exercise must happen then make it a different "bonus" trophy. Not a fan of teams who top the league missing out on the trophy because they lose a game right at the end.
It's normally called a Minor Premiership.
They do it in the NRL.
It's clearly the best system, IMO.
Marler on twitter linking to an article about Melbourne Storm being stripped of their titles for salary cap cheating
Would be interesting but the Champions cup would need to be moved around a little, or you would be almost expecting teams to choose which comp to prioritise each season doing the double would become even more difficult, the final month is already so tough for the likes of Sarries and could be for Chiefs if they start competing in Europe.
You can only feel for Exeter so much in terms of winning the table then loosing the final as it was them that profited from that format a few seasons ago when Wasps won on points but lost to them in the final.
Well done Sarries. Another master class in how to find a way to win. Chiefs just don’t quite have that mental toughness yet.
I agree with this because topping the table and winning the play offs are 2 totally different things, granted the top team will challange at the play offs. Not saying we shouldnt have play offs but play offs requires the strongest 15/23, where as the regular season requires a strong squad depth and consistancy.
You can only play the tournaments in front of you though. Sarries would undoubtedly have had a different approach to the league if finishing top meant anything. The reason the play-offs were instigated was to prevent teams that contribute a disproportionate number of players to National teams from being penalised (alongside generating more excitement and money at the end of the season). If top of the league wins the premiership, then games shouldn't be played during international windows. It will just encourage teams to recruit non-qualified or internationally retired players.
I don’t like the whole play off idea, but the international clashes make them a necessary evil. They’re there unless and until someone gets round to sorting out the calendar.
Sarries played what was in front of them and, as they usually do, got it right when it counted.
A few weeks ago I moaned that both Sarries and Chiefs put out second teams in their league fixture. Yet that too was instructive. Sarries won easily suggesting that the future also looks in pretty good shape.
All very fair points by you and @Old Hooker , but having topping the league mean something. The team like sarries with pretty much all the england pack is likely to win the play offs constantly. But having internationals away for part of the season yes it seems unfair but levels the field, sarries will always make top 4 yet there will be a fight till the very end to top the prem as well as the win the playoffs. Which will be the bigger deal obv but i like the idea of it.
I get what you say about teams signing players but the top teams develop players. Sarries and chiefs both have, Saints are bringing some good talant through and starting to step up
Tbh i just like the idea of keeping the play offs but making the table mean something. But wont happen.
If you have too many trophies it all gets a bit meaningless I mean how do you differentiate between the play off and league winners, which do you value higher, not to mention if Sarries had of lost who would be considered the best team, the statement Exeter are premiership champions thus best team in England and Sarries are the best in Europe doesn’t quite sit right.
How about next season reducing the games to 16, just like MLR will be.
2 groups of 6 home and away in group (10 matches) plus home or away v other group (6 matches). With play off for top 3 in each group.
The impact of RWC, will mean less time to play matches, so great opportunity to do this.
During the RWC, the Premiership Cup could be played with teams playing the other group home or away, giving 6 matches and completing the home and away set.
Quarters, semis , over 2 consecutive weeks, with final a pre determined venue after a week break, would bring total weeks to 10, finishing on 9th November.
Premiership starts week after.
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If there’s anything to be learnt about Super Rugby’s current state it’s that conferences are dog s**t.
Hows Pro 14 doing since conference system? Ive never liked the idea of conferences tbh.
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