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Again not feeling hugely confident.
Thing is bath are very much rebuilding it feels like. Problem is i'm still not convinced that Hooper is that man.Sarries are generally a pretty clinical and controlling side. Bath give away penalties like they are going out of fashion. We have the capacity to play some very exciting rugby but until the forwards stop being so stupid / lazy, we cannot hope to rely on any sort of consistency. If the penalty count builds up, we will be relying entirely on individual moments of brilliance to have any hope. If we are going into double digits on penalties again, it would indicate the coaching staff are incapable of addressing the problem.
Neil Hatley (Head Giver??
Is this now the best name/worst name ever given to a coach or player hahaWish i was kidding.View attachment 12351
Issue is Bath have claimed to have been rebuilding and developing a new style ever since the Fords left. We have had a habit of signing poor players in positions we didn't need and neglecting positions we did need. We've always had pretty solid backs but have not had a good set of forwards for a while. The organisation of the club has been flip-flopping all over the place. Considering our coaching staff appears to be all forwards, it's a wonder why it's our forwards who are so poor. Underhill and Reid are the only ones we can really rely on to put in a shift every game. The rest have a habit of going missing. Hell even supposedly world class Faletau performs noticeably worse for Bath than he did for Wales.Thing is bath are very much rebuilding it feels like. Problem is i'm still not convinced that Hooper is that man.
Also when you look at Bath, Where are the coaches?
you have Stuart Hooper (DoR - Ex Forward) ,Neil Hatley (Head Giver??/Forwards Coach/Defence Coach - Ex Forward), Luke Charteris (Line Out Coach - Ex Forward) Mark Lilley (Scrum Specialist Ex Forward) - with Girvan Dempsey gone to Colstons'
So who is the Back's Coach and whose the attacking coach? and why has the club got no dedicated back's who are now coaches. Seems very odd to have all forwards.
It makes no sense.
Neil Hatley is Head Coach and Defence.Also when you look at Bath, Where are the coaches?
I think an experienced Backs coach would be so beneficial for Bath. IMHO a really experienced backs coach and Defence Coach would really add to this team. Would have gone all out to get Mitchell but i'd recommend Worsley who is awesome.We've been rebuilding for a lot longer than that. But then, so does every club every year, it's just a matter of degree.
When is the last time we had the same head coach for more than 3 seasons?
Neil Hatley is Head Coach and Defence.
Mark Lilley is Forwards Coach
Dave Williams is Attack Coach
Luke Charteris is Line-out Specialist Coach
Ryan Davies is Skills Coach
We're light by a defence coach IMO, with way too little experience in the coaching crew as a whole.
The impression I get is that Hooper is just an assistant when it comes to hand-on coaching.
I'd probably agree on the results but I doubt they'll all be that close.Again not feeling hugely confident.
We are really struggling on numbers available and a physical game vs Chiefs is not what we need right now. Scholtz looks like he's not prem fit yet and with Gaskell and Cruse now out again it's looking sparse across the squad.
In terms of overall results,
Sale by 3 - I'm going for a Sale win - Cold Friday night near Manchester and Curry's, Du Preez's and Ross told to go out and smoke Smith and stop him playing. Think this will be a top game. Sale by 3.
Falcons by 5 - Feels like a Falcons kind of game. They are tough to play against up in the fortress of Kingston Park and bears look like they have gone 12 rounds with Fury.
Wuss by 3 - For some reason, just feels like it's either gonna be a Leicester game where they run away and win by 15-20 points or.... its tight as anything either low scoring or high scoring but no-one edging ahead. I'll go with Wuss as i'm enjoying no one running away.
Chiefs by 5 - I'd like to think we have a chance of winning but sadly i'm not optimistic with some of the players we are missing. If we had a full squad, maybe. However, with the injury list now Odogwu, Mills, Atkinson, Barbeary, Gaskell, J Willis, Launchbury, Fekitoa, Cruse, Minozzi, Miller we are in trouble.
Sarries by 10 - Sarries to punish some lose Bath phases, feel it's a fairly clear result.
Irish by 3 - Close and a real battle of the 10's and the flying back 3. Mouth watering line up of OHC/Loader/Parton vs LRZ/Thorley/May/Woodward.
I hope you're right but last I heard is he's expected to be out for a while (though that was before seeing the specialist about his shoulder, hopefully he just needed a couple of weeks rest - though missing out on America's last game isn't a good sign)MacGinty likely to join the SA players coming back
We've been rebuilding for a lot longer than that. But then, so does every club every year, it's just a matter of degree.
When is the last time we had the same head coach for more than 3 seasons?
Neil Hatley is Head Coach and Defence.
Mark Lilley is Forwards Coach
Dave Williams is Attack Coach
Luke Charteris is Line-out Specialist Coach
Ryan Davies is Skills Coach
We're light by a defence coach IMO, with way too little experience in the coaching crew as a whole.
The impression I get is that Hooper is just an assistant when it comes to hand-on coaching.
It really doesn't make sense. Such a strangely made up coaching staff.Honestly outside of Hatley I have no clue who they are (Obviously I know Charteris as well in terms of player)
Hatley and Williams are the only experienced coaches in there. Hatley you all know. Williams coached our academy a decade or so ago, who's since spent some time in Japan and South Africa (Kobelco Steelers, Cheetahs and Sharks).Honestly outside of Hatley I have no clue who they are (Obviously I know Charteris as well in terms of player)
Yup, Sarries and Exeter identified the right talent to put in charge, I'm far from convinced that Bath have - though I'm not writing Hooper off just yet - it may feel like he's been there for 5-6 years, but he's only actually had a say in things for 2.1. He's also there as DoR, not coach, so his job is the 5-10 year plan, not the week-to-week coaching - that's Hatley's job (and he seems to be getting let off the hook).I would say the success at Saracens was down to having McCall at the top nothing against Hooper but he just feels like. Murphy type coach nice guy all about the club respected but How can he develop other coaches?