'The ASHES series' 2005

[Zambaman]

What's with this 'Powerplay' thing I've been hearing the commentators talk about? What's it all about?

 

[woodie]

Originally posted by Zambaman@Jul 11 2005, 04:20 AM
What's with this 'Powerplay' thing I've been hearing the commentators talk about? What's it all about?

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New one-day cricket rules explained 
England and Australia became the first teams to use new rules announced by the International Cricket Council in a trial that will last until May 2006.

Substitutes - each team can use one substitute, who may bat or bowl as well as fielding.
They must name a 12-man team at the toss and nominate who will be the "supersub".

That player is eligible to bat and bowl and come on at anytime during the match.

He can bowl the the remaining overs left by the replaced player.

The replaced player cannot take part in any part of the remainder of the game.

Any number of fielding substitutes can still be used in case of injury, as before.

All 12 players gain a one-day international cap for the records.



Fielding restrictions - the old rules with 15 overs subject to fielding restrictions are replaced by three blocks totalling 20 overs
During the first 10 overs, now known as Powerplay 1, only two fielders may be outside the fielding circle, and at least two must be in catching positions.

Two more blocks of five overs, known as Powerplay 2 and Powerplay 3, are available to the fielding captain at any time with the same rules applying, but must be used in a 50-over innings.[/b]

 

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Thats crazy.

 

[Zambaman]

Cheers for that woodie.

hmmm... so if you were the team that goes in to bat second, you could have your weakest batsmen substituted for a specialist if you named him in the 12? That does sounds sort of crazy.

 

[woodie]

Originally posted by Zambaman@Jul 12 2005, 09:02 AM
Cheers for that woodie.

hmmm... so if you were the team that goes in to bat second, you could have your weakest batsmen substituted for a specialist if you named him in the 12? That does sounds sort of crazy.

yeah, basically the team who wins the toss should always win the game. YOu would bowl first, then sub in an extra batsman for the worst batsman in the side. Looks like Aus will win today after winning the toss, England have been forced to sub in Solanki for Simon Jones batting first.

 

[An Tarbh]

Surely they should be looking to find more of an all rounder for the sub, Solanki doesn't exactly fill that role with his part time bowling.

 

[woodie]

Side winning toss looks set to win again. Glichrist slaying the attack all over the place, no new rules can affect that. Come on the test series!

Pietersen is going to shine this summer.

 

[woodie]

Well AUS won today which means over the Natwest Series + Challenge it is 3-3 between the sides with one draw.

 

[invisibleman18]

for the first test i would go:

Trescothick
Strauss
Vaughan
Bell
Collingwood
Flintoff
G Jones
Giles
S Jones
Hoggard
Harmison

Farily certain that will be the lineup, with the exception of collingwood. that will be thorpe.

i think we may put up more of a fight than usual in the tests. (ie, go for 5 days rather than 3 and half)
and this england team is probably close to their peak. trouble is, winning the ashes involves beating australia 3 times. aussies to lose 3 tests is just not gonna happen. so i think the matches will be hard fought. but it will be the same old 4-1 with us winning the 5th (or 3-1 as its possible 1 could get rained out). we usually tend to get 1 when the series is already won so i dont think it will be 5-0.

im really gutted that even though weve looked the better team for most of the time so far on this tour, the aussies still won both of the one day series, with many players out of form. ok, well shared the first series, but they still had their hands on the trophy and didnt lose it. tied 1st.

 

[Wally]

When does the first Ashes test get under way?

 

[woodie]

Originally posted by Wally@Jul 13 2005, 09:13 AM
When does the first Ashes test get under way?

Next Thursday, 21 July @ Lord's

 

[woodie]

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England oust Thorpe for Pietersen 

Thorpe makes way for Pietersen in the first Test squad
Batsman Kevin Pietersen will make his England Test debut against Australia in the first Test next week after Graham Thorpe was left out of the Ashes squad.
Pietersen has hit two half-centuries against Australia this summer while Thorpe, a veteran of 100 Tests, has suffered form and injury worries.

The move could signal the end of Thorpe's Test career, which began with a century against Australia in 1993.

Hampshire bowler Chris Tremlett is also in the 12-man squad for Lord's.

  We have no doubts that he will be able to transfer his one-day form into the Test arena

Selector David Graveney on Pietersen

But the uncapped Tremlett is likely to miss out unless there is an injury to the first choice pace bowlers.

Matthew Hoggard was not part of the one-day squad, which beat Australia in two of their six completed matches in the last month, but is likely to resume his role opening the Test attack.

Batsman Ian Bell keeps his place after making an impressive debut against Bangladesh earlier this summer and with Mark Butcher ruled out with a wrist injury.

England head selector David Graveney, said the choice between Thorpe and Pietersen was "the most difficult decision that I have been party to".

Pietersen's one-day form, "energy and enthusiasm" saw him preferred.

"We have no doubts that he will be able to transfer his one-day form into the Test arena," said Graveney.

"We firmly believe that he has the potential to become a world class player in England's middle order and a genuine match-winner."

South African-born Pietersen, 25, qualified by residency to play for England last October and has already made 786 runs, at an average of 87.33 in 21 one-day internationals.

He underlined his value to the Test team with an innings of 74 in the final NatWest Challenge one-day match at The Oval on Tuesday.

He would become first England player to make his debut in an Ashes Test at Lord's since Bob Woolmer and David Steele in 1975

Thorpe, 35, had an epidural injection in his spine in an attempt to be fit, and hit a half-century for Surrey earlier this week.

He has made clear his intention to retire at the end of the summer by taking a coaching contract with Australian state side New South Wales.

In 100 Tests, the most recent against Bangladesh at Durham last month, he hit 6744 runs at an average of 44.66.



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England squad: M E Trescothick, A J Strauss, M P Vaughan (Capt), I R Bell, K P Pietersen, A Flintoff, G O Jones (Wkt), A Giles, S P Jones, M J Hoggard, S J Harmison, C T Tremlett.[/b]

 

[invisibleman18]

Very suprised that Thorpe has been left out of the squad altogether. I don't see Pietersen as a test batsmen just yet, but lets hope he can do the business for us. suprising decision, and i feel it may be the wrong one. lets hope it turns out to be the right one.
so i guess the lineup will be:
Strauss, Trescothick, Vaughan, Bell, Flintoff, Pietersen, G.Jones, Giles, S.Jones,Hoggard,Harmison with Tremlett being 12th man. Good to see Tremlett involved. look to be a pretty good bowler in the couple of games in the one dayers, and at 6 foot 8, hes gotta be useful. have always like James Anderson though, i guess his face doesn't fit somewhere. someone, somewhere doesn't like him.

 

[An Tarbh]

Why not include them both and leave out Bell, surely scoring runs against a poor Bangladesh side shouldn't give him a place in the Ashes squad. Has his domestic form been that good?

 

[woodie]

I think they have got it right. Bell is a classy player, consistent over the past 4 or so seasons, doing well whenever England have required his services. Thorpe has been injured and well out of form, although I'm sure he could still do a job in the later tests if called upon. Pietersen will star this summer, I'm sure of that.

 

[invisibleman18]

bell also scored runs against west indies. i think the reason he was chosen ahead of pietersen for the bangladesh tests was because his domestic form had been much better. he looks a class player with great technique, definitely looks like a good test player and was always a certainty for this squad.

 

[Ashton]

Originally posted by An Tarbh@Jul 13 2005, 03:40 AM
Surely they should be looking to find more of an all rounder for the sub, Solanki doesn't exactly fill that role with his part time bowling.

well solanki did well in the last match. we dont want to revert back to the old bits n pieces players, mark alleyne, mark ealham, the holliaokes, anthony mcgrath etc.

with these new rules (super subs) you win the toss, you win the match

 

[Ashton]

they should have left out Giles for Pietersen and kept Thorpe.

Giles will be lucky to take one wicket at lords let alone rip through the order

 

[M-Time]

Australia has 71 years of dominance over England at the home of cricket and I don't see the trend being discontinued. Australia to take the first test out thanks to stellar performances from Gilchrist and Ponting.

 

[esoj]

follow the link below for live audio commentary of the test matches. just click on avaiable online on the right hand side next to the approaite day eg thursday click on the the available online buttion next to it on the right hand side

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/sportsextra/schedule.shtml