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I ****ing loathe it.
Thanks.
I ****ing loathe it.
Thanks.
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It's a fundamentally **** system.it.
It's a fundamentally **** system.
Argentina have improved because they've been playing regularly against teams which don't use it.
Oh yes... Scotland's two PRO12 sides are really comparable with the SANZAR equivalent, how silly of me... not to mention Italian powerhouse Zebre.
Your viewpoint is readily understood on basis that one sees clubs solely as feeders for the International game!
The alternative view is that many, many people enjoy club leagues at least equally to international rugby if not more!
Club rugby is played on more or less a weekly basis rather than periods of 4/6 weeks three times a year and often at prices they cannot afford for tickets they cannot get!!
Well you seem to be arguing (at least in part, given the comparison to Argentina) that the English league system has contributed to the National sides failure, by somehow causing them to play Scotland and Italy more often than playing against Aus/NZ...
No - I'm saying that the club system is inferior. And Argentina have been massive beneficiaries of the SR system since engaging with the product of it.
You disagree that a system which condensed the best quality Premiership players into, say, 6 teams and had them play fewer total games would improve the quality of the national side, and it's competitiveness in domestic European competition?
How is the English league inferior to the Argentinian product/system? This should be interesting.
As for fewer teams, doing what? Playing in a British league? No thanks, we already dominate both tiers of the eurocup compared to 90% of the rest of the British sides, making our teams stronger still will not change that.
Where have I talked about Argentina's domestic system?
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You seem to be blaming the English domestic setup to be partially responsible for the English NT failure. My point was that the Argie players play in comparatively worse conditions (long seasons, no mandated rest, often NH season, followed by TRC meaning no decent time off), and yet they looked far better than we did. Your argument was that they play in the TRC. My question then is how the hell does the English league system make it that England NT doesn't play in the TRC.
Could you point out all the british sides that have done so much better than the English ones in the euro cup? Only Leinster made it to the playoffs in the champions cup, there were 4 English sides there. And in the challenge cup 4/5 English teams made it to the playoffs with an English side winning it. Why would we want to play the other British sides any more, they appear to be a lower level than the AP for the most part.