I guess the emoji at the end of that sentence meant to be a joke. But I get the gist of what you mean. Bruce has been nit-picking on only certain topics/sections of this issue since this thread started, and has on several occasions not been able to grasp the totality of this issue. It's clear that he doesn't like us Saffas, and no matter what we say on this thread, he will continue to be pessimistic about us and be more like the ANC and pro-quota. I think it's time we all add him to the ignore list, at least then we won't see his drivel on this thread, and can have a more constructive discussion about this issue.