Transformation in Springbok Rugby- Sports Minister Quotes from the Post WC conf

[TRF_heineken]

He picked the players "voluntarily", the ANC have never tried to take punitive action. I wonder what the IRB would do if targets/quotas were missed and the ANC tried to enforce them by some form of legal action. I don't know for definite but I believe/hope that the IRB would step in and put a stop to it. Especially if the team was loosing when it should be winning. (If I'm being cynical, I think the IRB may turn a but of a blind eye as long as the team was still winning/competitive), a strong South African team is one the IRB's main assets.

There is nothing voluntarily about picking quotas. And remember, HM isn't the only guy that is part of the selection process, and this is where Heyneke gets all the blame, and the other selectors gets off scot free. They point the finger at him for picking a squad, but he didn't do it alone, and there are certainly a lot of things happening behind closed doors that we don't hear about which does have an influence on the selection and the transformation of the team.

 

[mdaclarke]

And therein lies the problem. This govt have been known to cut off their noses to spite their faces in the past. While the loss of revenue will be regrettable their position will be that the "West" (which is a term used to describe traditional colonial powers) must not think they can dictate to them how to run their country. It's an often used argument to paint international influencers as the old enemy of Africans.

There I've said it. Now I'll just wait for the name calling to begin.

I hope you are wrong. But it's happened in the past with Zimbabwean Cricket. How did destroying Zimbabwean Cricket help the day to day lives of Black Zimbabweans

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wow, what a conundrum, just imagine if SA allowed players of colour to play against foes. I sense whinging?

Troll off!!!

 

[AAndre]

News24 and IOLnews closed their readers' forums in SA forever, because of questions as relevant as yours. These things were polarising, more than attracting positive debate and they pulled the plug simultaneously, shortly after our own Pearl Harbour. The style here is, if you disagree, you and your buddies burn down a clinic or stone a couple of buses. The latest trend is kill a few Zimbabweans, Somali's or other "brothers" from up north, so you can rob their shops and call it "xenophobia". The essence of my question is, in a country gone mad, what relevance would a game, like rugby have? The entire national soccer team is demographically "correct". Now how fair is that, considering the Ministers foot in mouth speech about quotas? SARU is financially sound and in the back. Politicians are after the "black", not the game. They have scoffed for twenty plus years and see the bottom of the trough fast approaching. They are getting restive. We'll be screwed before 2019.

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Don't know. Try useless?

 

[TRF_heineken]

Finally a politician speaking some sense with regard to the transformation issue:
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/2019-transformation-plan-a-funeral-policy-da-20160420

[TEXTAREA]"I would still suggest and put it that this transformation policy is a funeral policy … maybe a nicer name is calling it 'colour by numbers,'" said Bergman.

Bergman was concerned that the policy would encourage South African players to further their careers overseas.

"The problem with that is not that it’s white players (leaving South Africa) … it’s a mixture of players and the feedback would be that we are creating two classes of player again," he said.

"When you play overseas, you’re a rugby player. You’re not a white player or a black player, you’re just a rugby player.

"When you play in South Africa, though, you’ve got the added burden of being judged … are you there because you’re a merit player, or are you there because you’re a certain colour?"

Bergman challenged a rethink when it came to transformation policy, saying that a greater focus should be placed on the lower levels as opposed to the national team.

"I don’t think that’s what we meant when we said we want transformation. We’re totally for transformation, but the transformation has to be responsible," he said.

"Transformation … if it was taking place correctly at school level, club level and provincial level then we would never have to worry about what was happening on a national level because then transformation corrects itself. [/TEXTAREA]

The Bold parts especially is something I wish more people would take to heart!