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TRF World XV... who's in?

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<div class='quotemain'>So I honestly can't understand what you are saying, doesn't make sense. [/b]

Thats not my problem mate, give it another go.
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My problem? Hah, you are the one trying to express your views aren't you? Your missing the point completely of what I'm trying to say, you might want to "give it another go".

Doesn't every player have their flaws? I mean you say no hookers today compare to Wood, Fitzpatrick, Kearns and Thompson (you serious?). Yes that is true mate, but what I'm saying is that applies to alot of positions these days. eg- Cullen, Blanco at 15, Lomu, Wilson at wing, are all better than players going around in those positions nowadays.

So why bag Mealamu? I'm not gonna say Latham is ***** just because there was a guy called Cullen who was so much better than he was. [/b][/quote] its your problem because you seem to be the only one who doesn't understand.
 
Well, this is my squad. Really hard to decide between so many good players, but this does it for me:

1. Petru Balan
2. Marius Tincu
3. Carl Hayman
4. Victor Matfield
5. Daniel Vickerman
6. Schalk Burger
7. Ritchie McCaw
8. Sebastien Chabal
9. Augustin Pichot
10. Daniel Carter
11. Bryan Habana
12. Luke McAlister
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. Lote Tuqiri
15. Juan Martin Hernandez

16. Os du Randt
17. John Smit
18. Bakkies Botha
19. Jerry Collins
20. Peter Stringer
21. Gordon D'Arcy
22. Francois Steyn
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I know i can't really criticise because i haven't added my own list but i will anyway. How could you have Tuqiri in your team let alone your starting lineup? That guy is crap as far as im concerned. Oh well, everyone is entitled to their own oppinion.
 
15 Chris Latham (AUS)
14 Bryan Habana (RSA)
13 Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)
12 Yannick Jauzion (FRA)
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZ)
10 Dan Carter (NZ)
9 Furie du Preez (RSA)
8 Jerry Collins (NZ)
7 Richie Maccaw (NZ)
6 Schalk Burger (RSA)
5 Paul O'Connell (IRE)
4 Chris Jack (NZ)
3 Carl Hayman (NZ)
2 John Smit (RSA)
1 Tony Woodcock (NZ)

16 Raphael Ibanez (FRA)
17 Os Du Rant (RSA)
18 Victor Matfield (RSA)
19 George Smith (AUS)
20 Dwayne Peel (WAL)
21 Luke McAlister (NZ)
22 Stephen Larkham (AUS)
 
well i dont know that much about northen hem so from what i think i know

1. marconet

2. mealamu

3. c hayman

4. p o'connel

5. h mcmeninman

6. s burger

7. g smith

8. leamy/ lauaki

9. du preez

10. s larkham

11. bryan habana

12. m giteau/ d carter

13. b o'driscall/ c smith

14 sivivatu

15 chris latham



16. ibanez

17. os du randt

18. c jack

19. jerry collins

20. b leonard

21. mortlock

22.
 
[/quote] its your problem because you seem to be the only one who doesn't understand.
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Idiot. You are missing my point completely. I'm saying where is the sense in bagging a player simply because their was a player back in the day who was better? That is pretty much what "the truth" was saying.

I understand perfectly well what you mean, it's just that its a load of crap. Hence me not understanding how one can judge a player simply be that.
 
I like the idea of a team with only one player from each country. Have to take a few liberties but can still get a decent team out.


1. Petro Balan - Romania
2. Raphael Ibanez - France
3. Kees Lensing - Namibia
4. Paul O'Connel - Ireland
5. Mike James - Canada
6. Jason White (or Simon Taylor) - Scotland
7. Richie McCaw - New Zealand
8. Sergio Parisse - Italy

9. Dwayne Peel - Wales
10. Johnny Wilkinson - England
11. Alessana Tuilagi - Samoa
12. Jean De Villiers - South Africa
13. Stirling Mortlock - Australia
14. Kameli Ratuvou - Fiji
15. Juan Hernandez - Argentina
 
its your problem because you seem to be the only one who doesn't understand.
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Idiot. You are missing my point completely. I'm saying where is the sense in bagging a player simply because their was a player back in the day who was better? That is pretty much what "the truth" was saying.

I understand perfectly well what you mean, it's just that its a load of crap. Hence me not understanding how one can judge a player simply be that. [/quote] i explained it in a previous post no one else seems to have a problem with it. there just isn't a hooker you could pick without the guy having limitations and that wasn't the case in the time of fitzy etc.(obiviously thompson was a terribble example).
 
its your problem because you seem to be the only one who doesn't understand.

Idiot. You are missing my point completely. I'm saying where is the sense in bagging a player simply because their was a player back in the day who was better? That is pretty much what "the truth" was saying.

I understand perfectly well what you mean, it's just that its a load of crap. Hence me not understanding how one can judge a player simply be that. [/quote] i explained it in a previous post no one else seems to have a problem with it. there just isn't a hooker you could pick without the guy having limitations and that wasn't the case in the time of fitzy etc.(obiviously thompson was a terribble example).
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Alright, I agree. But to some extent this applies to more than one position, that is what I'm saying. This thread is on a world xv, meaning the best players in the world today, not the in the time of fitzy.
 
1. Petru Balan - Romania[/b]

And here's my XV:

1. Balan
2. Tincu
3. Hayman
4. O'Connell
5. Matfield
6. Collins
7. Burger
8. Chabal
9. du Preez
10. Carter
11. Heymans
12. Jauzion
13. O'Driscoll
14. Habana
15. Hernandez
 
1 Os du Randt (RSA)
2 Raphael Ibanez (FRA) ©
3 Carl Hayman (NZL)
4 Victor Matfield (RSA)
5 Paul O'Connell (IRE)
6 Schalk Burger (RSA)
7 Richie McCaw (NZL)
8 Sergio Parisse (ITA)
9 Fourie du Preez (RSA)
10 Daniel Carter (NZL)
11 Bryan Habana (RSA)
12 Yannick Jauzion (FRA)
13 Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)
14 Josevata Rokocoko (NZL)
15 Juan Martin Hernandez (ARG)

16 Sylvain Marconnet (FRA)
17 Keven Mealamu (NZL)
18 Chris Jack (NZL)
29 Elvis Vermeulen (FRA) He is wounded but it is the only one which has succeeded to move the All Blacks in November 2007
20 Dwayne Peel (WAL)
22 Ronan O'Gara (IRE)
22 Chris Latham (AUS)
 
1.du rant
2.tincu
3.haymen
4.o'connell
5.matfield
6.burger
7.g.smith
8.s.taylor
9.du preez
10.carter
11.rococoko
12.jauzion
13.bod
14.tuquiri
15.latham

im presuming the game would be refereed by a neutral person from a different planet so no f***in cheating liability like mccaw in my team
 
1. C.Hayman
2. R.Ibanez
3. T.Woodcock
4. V.Matfield
5. A.Williams
6. S.Burger-more mobile then collins
7. R.McCaw-
8. S.Chabal-No Words Needed For This Inclusion, Can carry, can tackle and offload what else is needed?

9. Du Preez
10. J.Wilkinson-Carter has a better running game but his basic flyhalf skills have been off especially goal kicking
11. J.Rocokoko
12. M.Giteau-Game Breaker
13. B.O'Driscoll-Same as above
14. J.Robinson-Natural finisher, awesome acceleration
15. J.Hernandez

16. Os du Randt
17. K.Mealamu
18. C.Jack
19. T.Rees-Has the potential to come out as one of the top 7's
20. D.Peel
21. D.Carter
22. C.Latham


Some may disagree but i really couldnt care, as it is my opinion which wont be changed by someone elses :D
 
1.T.Woodcock



2.A. Oliver Ive chossen a all kiwi front row because they are the best scrummring front row around



3.C. Hayman



4.V. Matfeild

Matfeild is the best line out jumper around and robinsons the hard c*** in the middle mixing it up

5.K. Robinson



6.J. Collins



7.R McCaw



8.S. Chabal



9.A. Pichot



10.D. Carter



11.D. Howlett



12.B. O'Driscol



13.S. Mortlock



14.S. Sivivatu



15.C. Lathem



16. J. Smit



17.O. Du rant



18.P. O'Connel



19.S. Burger



20.G. Gregan



21.J. Hook



22.M. Mililiana







Sorry if theres alot of kiwis not trying to be biase
 
1 Woodcok (NZL) - screws and f***s
2 Ibanez (FRA) - delivers the basics + all over the pitch + great captain
3 Castrogiovanni (ITA) - lifts and separates
4 Shaw (ENG) - owns the lineout
5 O'Connell (IRE) - owns the lineout + carries at a sprint
6 Burger (RSA) - meatgrinder with a dose of e-coli
7 McCaw (NZL) - the best, but with reservations
8 Parisse (ITA) - best of a good lot
9 Greeeeeeeeeeeegan (AUS) - chess player
10 Carter (NZL) - no comment
11 Habana (RSA) - no comment
12 Jauzion (FRA) - best of a good lot
13 O'Driscoll (IRE) - no comment
14 Rokocoko (NZL) - great lines in attack
15 Latham (AUS) - great lines in attack

16 Marconnet (FRA) - recovering from ski accident, otherwise would be in like Flynn
17 a.n.other hooker - NOT the floating turd that is Mealamu
18 Chabal (FRA) - just for the crack
19 Collins (NZL) - might headbut Chabal in the dugout
20 Pichot (ARG) - talented ******
21 O'Gara (IRE) - serious scoreboard-ticking prick
22 Steyn (RSA) - tomorrow's superstar

Bring it on!
 
i change my fullback from latham to paterson on reflection, how was this guy missing from the lions
 
1 du Randt
2 Ibanez
3 Hayman
4 O'Connell
5 Matfield
6 Burger
7 McCaw
8 Chabal
9 Peel
10 Carter
11 Habana
12 Giteau
13 O'Driscoll
14 S.Williams
15 Montgomery
 
1.woodcock
2.ibanez
3.hayman
4.matfield
5.peolus
6.burger
7.mccaw
8.collins
9.gregan
10.carter
11.habana
12.mccalister
13.mortlock
14.howlet
15.latham
16.mealamu
17.OsDuRandt
18.o'conel
19.smith
20.duprez
21.giteau
22.toeava


1.woodcock
2.ibanez
3.hayman
4.matfield
5.peolus
6.burger
7.mccaw
8.collins
9.gregan
10.carter
11.habana
12.mccalister
13.mortlock
14.howlet
15.latham
16.mealamu
17.OsDuRandt
18.o'conel
19.smith
20.duprez
21.giteau
22.toeava
 
15. Castaignède
14. Rougerie
13. O'Driscoll
12. Mortlock
11. Habana
10. Carter
9. Gregan
8. Chabal
7. McCaw
6. Burger
5. O'Connell
4. Matfield
3. Hayman
2. Szarzewski
1. Marconnet
 
15. Percy Montgomery (SA)
14. Joe Rockococo (NZ)
13. Brian O'Driscoll (IRE)
12. Yannick Jauzion (FRA)
11. Bryan Habana (SA)

10. Dan Carter (NZ)
9. Fourie Du Preez (SA)

1. Matt Stevens (ENG)
2. Raphael Ibanez (FRA)
3. Carl Hayman (NZ)
4. Paul O'Connell (IRE)
5. Victor Matfield (SA)
6. Schalk Burger (SA)
7. Richie McCaw (NZ)
8. Pierre Spies (SA)
 

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