Under 20’s 2019

[TRF_Olyy]

England U20s

15. Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons), 14. Ollie Sleightholme (Northampton Saints), 13. Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints) - captain, 12. Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers), 11. Cadan Murley (Harlequins), 10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins), 9. Sam Maunder (Exeter Chiefs), 1. Olly Adkins (Gloucester), 2. Nic Dolly (Sale Sharks), 3. Marcus Street (Exeter Chiefs), 4. Joel Kpoku (Saracens), 5. Alex Coles (Northampton Saints), 6. Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors), 7. Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester), 8. Tom Willis (Wasps)

Replacements:

16. Ben Atkins (London Irish), 17. Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks), 18. Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers), 19. James Scott (Worcester Warriors), 20. Rusiate Tuima (Exeter Chiefs), 21. Ollie Fox (Yorkshire Carnegie), 22. Cameron Redpath (Sale Sharks), 23. Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors).

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Rus wasn’t in the training squad was he?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Strongest U20 team I have seen England Field.

 

[Scotty]

No i didnt see him, must have been an injury or 2 but cant hurt to have a big lad on the bench.

Dont know hinkley but ted hill and tom willis seems a strong back row. Nice strong team though i dont rate tom hardwick that highly.

Id have started cam redpath at 12 and put kieren wilkinson at 22

 

[TRF_Olyy]

#Justice4LukeJames

Who is Hardwick? He must be some man to keep James out of the entire u20s setup

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Good gods that's a strong squad.
Generally when I look at these age-grade squads there are 4-5 players I actually recognise. This time there are 3 that I don't! (Murley, Dolly, Hinkley)
Actually, scratch that - I do recognise Murley

 

[Scotty]

#Justice4LukeJames

Who is Hardwick? He must be some man to keep James out of the entire u20s setup

I think hardwick is a 10 who can play 12.
Cam redpath keeping james out.
Hardwick is keeping Wilkinson out.
Same no james in there though.

 

[Leinster Fan]

I've heard of most of those players, hopefully they won't have gelled yet but this could be a big score despite us having what I think should be a decent team.

Ireland team v England

15. Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
14. Conor Phillips (Young Munster/Munster)
13. Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster)
12. David Hawkshaw (Clontarf/Leinster) (capt)
11. Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)
10. Harry Byrne (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
9. Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster)

1. Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
2. Dylan Tierney Martin (Corinthians/Connacht) *
3. Thomas Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
4. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster) *
5. Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
6. Martin Moloney (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
7. Scott Penny (UCD/Leinster)
8. John Hodnett (UCC/Munster)

Replacements

16. John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
17. Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)
18. Ryan Lomas (Galwegians/Connacht)
19. Brian Deeny (Clontarf/Leinster)
20. David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
21. Cormac Foley (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
22. Sean French (Cork Constitution/Munster)
23. Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)

Charlie Ryan and Scott Penny look like the obvious stars from that XV.

 

[munstermuffin]

I've heard of most of those players, hopefully they won't have gelled yet but this could be a big score despite us having what I think should be a decent team.

Ireland team v England

15. Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
14. Conor Phillips (Young Munster/Munster)
13. Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster)
12. David Hawkshaw (Clontarf/Leinster) (capt)
11. Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)
10. Harry Byrne (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
9. Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster)

1. Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
2. Dylan Tierney Martin (Corinthians/Connacht) *
3. Thomas Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
4. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster) *
5. Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
6. Martin Moloney (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
7. Scott Penny (UCD/Leinster)
8. John Hodnett (UCC/Munster)

Replacements

16. John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
17. Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)
18. Ryan Lomas (Galwegians/Connacht)
19. Brian Deeny (Clontarf/Leinster)
20. David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
21. Cormac Foley (St. Mary’s College/Leinster)
22. Sean French (Cork Constitution/Munster)
23. Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)

Charlie Ryan and Scott Penny look like the obvious stars from that XV.

To be fair Wren and Penny are 2 of the most highly noted lads from long time ago.
French, Byrne, Hawkshaw and Ryan as well as Wycherley are highly touted too

 

[Leinster Fan]

To be fair Wren and Penny are 2 of the most highly noted lads from long time ago.
French, Byrne, Hawkshaw and Ryan as well as Wycherley are highly touted too

As I say, we've got a good team and it should be much better than last year. I'm not going into that first game expecting a huge amount, but there wins should be very achievable.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I think hardwick is a 10 who can play 12.
Cam redpath keeping james out.
Hardwick is keeping Wilkinson out.
Same no james in there though.

Personally I think Hardwick is prob a better 12 than 10.

 

[MarkyH]

#Justice4LukeJames

Who is Hardwick? He must be some man to keep James out of the entire u20s setup

FH/Centre. Decent but like posted above I'd rate a few of the other centres higher. Rob Hardwick who is Toms Dad played for Coventry in the 90s and was capped for England while he played for us. He was in the same Cov team as Danny Grewcock..

They do NOT have the same physique

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

FH/Centre. Decent but like posted above I'd rate a few of the other centres higher. Rob Hardwick who is Toms Dad played for Coventry in the 90s and was capped for England while he played for us. He was in the same Cov team as Danny Grewcock..

They do NOT have the same physique

Tom's younger brother Rob Hardwick jnr plays prop though in out academy.
https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/rob-hardwick

Has more of his father build.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I believe that England U20 team has a combined cap of 80 in Prem and Champions cup games (Not including LV or Challenge cup games)

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

You may think it's the 800 years, the genocide or even recent brexit shenanigans but it's not.

14. Ollie Sleightholme - It's stuff like this which makes Ireland hate the English.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

You may think it's the 800 years, the genocide or even recent brexit shenanigans but it's not.

14. Ollie Sleightholme - It's stuff like this which makes Ireland hate the English.

???

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Sorry - what's the Irish claim there?

It's a God awful name. Evil

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

???

His daddy scored two tries against them in Dublin.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

His daddy scored two tries against them in Dublin.

So did most Englishmen in those days

 

[profitius]

We actually look decent this year, plenty of talented players in several different positions. The worry is that England look class and that a big defeat in the first game could shatter the squads confidence.

Yup but it would depend how they bounce back against Scotland next week.


What I want to see this season is some quality rugby being played by the team. Last season was turgid stuff. Let's hope McNamara and his coaching team have learned some lessons.

 

[MarkyH]

Anyone know if the Ire-Eng U20 game is on TV? Had a scroll through and can't find it?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's televised on RTE2 in Ireland apparently

Maybe streaming on the England website here?
I think sky only so the home games

 

[MarkyH]

Cheers, I'll check out the website later on ! IIRC some of the U20 games last year were streamed live on Facebook too...

 

[Leinster Fan]

It's on RTE here, dunno about England though.

EDIT: Nothing to see here, Olly already had it.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Damn RTE player.

Won't be able to watch the rugby but can watch this show about someone called Panti Bliss

 

[big ginger 8]

Safe to say Harry has a bit more pace than Ross.

Good response.

 

[big ginger 8]

20-24 at the half, given how good this England team is meant to be I’m pretty happy with that.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Our fullback has tits for hands

Marcus Smith shepherds crooked after 44mins, Redpath on at 12 and Hardwick to 10

 

[Jockstap]

Just coming in and out of this game but everytime I do Scott Penny seems to be doing the work of three men, could be a player.

 

[big ginger 8]

This is class from both sides.