Under 20’s 2019

[Groundhog]

Don't think this has been posted yet, but as our squad has been announced I’d set the ball rolling.


IRELAND UNDER-20 Squad (2019 Under-20 Six Nations Championship, February-March 2019):

Backs (19):

Harry Byrne (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster) (vice-capt)
Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
Sean French (Cork Constitution/Munster)
Cormac Foley (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
David Hawkshaw (Clontarf/Leinster) (capt)
Ben Healy (Garryowen/Munster)
Bruce Houston (Ballymena/Ulster)
Iwan Hughes (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Angus Kernohan (Queen's University/Ulster) *
James McCarthy (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
Stewart Moore (Malone/Ulster)
Oli Morris (Saracens/IQ Rugby)
Aaron O'Sullivan (UCD/Leinster/IQ Rugby)
Conor Phillips (Young Munster/Munster)
Colm Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)
Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster)
Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)


Forwards (21):

Azur Allison (Ballymena/Ulster)
Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)
Tom Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
Giuseppe Coyne (Dublin University/Leinster)
Brian Deeny (Clontarf/Leinster)
John Hodnett (UCC/Munster)
Paddy Kelly (Young Munster/Munster)
Ryan Lomas (Galwegians/Connacht)
Luke Masters (Shannon/Munster)
David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
JJ McKee (Ballymena/Ulster)
John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)
Martin Moloney (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Scott Penny (UCD/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster) (vice-capt) *
Billy Scannell (Young Munster/Munster)
Dylan Tierney Martin (Corinthians/Connacht) *
Ronan Watters (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)

* Denotes previously capped player at Under-20 level

Kernohan, Penny and Houstan have all played for their provinces. Hawkshaw the skipper is highly rated as is Sean French and Wren from Munster. Others may have more detailed information on the best players than me. Nice to see a Mary’s man in the squad. Another Scannell and Wycherley in the squad. I just hope that they’re being bred ethically.
Another note I’m glad they’re getting the games out of Dublin a bit. Makes sense.

 

[MikeTheNative]

Wales:

Forwards: Tom Devine (Dragons), Rhys Davies (Ospreys), Ben Warren (Cardiff Blues), Kemsley Mathias (Scarlets), Nick English (Bristol Bears), Dewi Lake (Ospreys), Cameron Lewis (Cardiff Blues), Will Griffiths (Dragons), Jac Price (Scarlets), Teddy Williams (Cardiff Blues), Morgan Jones (Scarlets), Ed Scragg (Dragons), Iestyn Rees (Scarlets), Ellis Thomas (Llanelli RFC), Tommy Reffell - (Captain, Leicester), Jac Morgan (Scarlets), Taine Basham (Dragons).

Backs: Harri Morgan (Ospreys), Jamie Hill (Cardiff Blues), Dafydd Buckland (Dragons), Cai Evans (Ospreys), Sam Costelow (Leicester), Aneurin Owen (Dragons), Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler (Ospreys), Tom Hoppe (Dragons), Dewi Cross (Ospreys), Deon Smith (Dragons), Caine Woolerton (Ospreys), Rio Dyer (Dragons), Alex Morgan (Gloucester), Tomi Lewis (Scarlets), Ioan Davies (Cardiff Blues).

The few stand out names are Cai Evans, Harri Morgan, Thomas-Wheeler who have all played a few games for the Ospreys, Morgan especially has impressed in his games. Sam Castelow is highly rated at the Tigers, although I've not seen him play personally. In the forwards another Tiger's player, Reffell is pretty good, Basham had a good Junior World cup and played a number of games for the Dragons last year. I'm struggling to pick some out of the front 5 though, someone else will a bit more knowledge hopefully can. I'm sure Dewi Lake has played a few games for the Ospreys though.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

England u20s aka Other Nations Shopping List

Forwards

Olly Adkins (Gloucester), Josh Basham (Durham University), Will Capon (Bristol Bears), Richard Capstick (Exeter Chiefs), Alex Coles (Northampton Saints), Nic Dolly (Sale Sharks), James Dun (Bristol Bears), Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers), Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors), Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester), Joel Kpoku (Saracens), Samson Ma'asi (Northampton Saints), Kai Owen (Worcester Warriors), James Scott (Worcester Warriors), Marcus Street (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Willis (Wasps).

Backs

Tom De Glanville (Bath), Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints), Connor Doherty (Sale Sharks), Ollie Fox (Yorkshire Carnegie), Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers), Ollie Hassell-Collins (London Irish), Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons), Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors), Sam Maunder (Exeter Chiefs), Cadan Murley (Harlequins), Cameron Redpath (Sale Sharks), Arron Reed (Sale Sharks), Ollie Sleightholme (Northampton Saints), Marcus Smith (Harlequins), Gus Warr (Sale Sharks), Kieran Wilkinson (Sale Sharks).

 

[Groundhog]

Hmmm Connor Doherty is a very Irish sounding name.
Not sure guys with names like De Glanville, Dingwall, Sleightholme and Capstick drawn from the time of King Cnut will have an Irish granny.

 

[munstermuffin]

Don't think this has been posted yet, but as our squad has been announced I’d set the ball rolling.


IRELAND UNDER-20 Squad (2019 Under-20 Six Nations Championship, February-March 2019):

Backs (19):

Harry Byrne (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster) (vice-capt)
Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
Sean French (Cork Constitution/Munster)
Cormac Foley (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
David Hawkshaw (Clontarf/Leinster) (capt)
Ben Healy (Garryowen/Munster)
Bruce Houston (Ballymena/Ulster)
Iwan Hughes (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Angus Kernohan (Queen's University/Ulster) *
James McCarthy (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
Stewart Moore (Malone/Ulster)
Oli Morris (Saracens/IQ Rugby)
Aaron O'Sullivan (UCD/Leinster/IQ Rugby)
Conor Phillips (Young Munster/Munster)
Colm Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)
Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster)
Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)


Forwards (21):

Azur Allison (Ballymena/Ulster)
Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)
Tom Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
Giuseppe Coyne (Dublin University/Leinster)
Brian Deeny (Clontarf/Leinster)
John Hodnett (UCC/Munster)
Paddy Kelly (Young Munster/Munster)
Ryan Lomas (Galwegians/Connacht)
Luke Masters (Shannon/Munster)
David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
JJ McKee (Ballymena/Ulster)
John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)
Martin Moloney (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Scott Penny (UCD/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster) (vice-capt) *
Billy Scannell (Young Munster/Munster)
Dylan Tierney Martin (Corinthians/Connacht) *
Ronan Watters (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)

* Denotes previously capped player at Under-20 level

Kernohan, Penny and Houstan have all played for their provinces. Hawkshaw the skipper is highly rated as is Sean French and Wren from Munster. Others may have more detailed information on the best players than me. Nice to see a Mary’s man in the squad. Another Scannell and Wycherley in the squad. I just hope that they’re being bred ethically.
Another note I’m glad they’re getting the games out of Dublin a bit. Makes sense.

Billy will be best of all 3 Scannells.

Josh is a different type of personality to Fineen. A good player though.

Craig Casey is a good player too. Strange to have 2 backs as the C and VC though. Always prefer a forward myself

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

So Billy will be at worst decent? Noice.

Looks stronger than the last two squad, nowhere near the level of the Stockdale and Ryan team though.

 

[Groundhog]

So Billy will be at worst decent? Noice.

Looks stronger than the last two squad, nowhere near the level of the Stockdale and Ryan team though.

Yeah it’s a team with a good bit of talent but if we had a generational player like Ryan on it we’d know about it by now.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Looks stronger than the last two squad, nowhere near the level of the Stockdale and Ryan team though.

Is that the one that lost to a side captained by Harry effing Mallinder?

 

[big ginger 8]

The Ryan team was considered weaker than the team that preceded it before the WC, think they had a poor start to the 6N as well.

It's really hard to tell how a team will go beforehand.

Penny has already played for Leinster as a teenager and is pretty good but probably limited by his size a bit. Byrne (Ross' younger brother), Hawkshaw and Milne all had a fair bit of hype in school.

Think Hawkshaw only ever lost one cup match.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Is that the one that lost to a side captained by Harry effing Mallinder?

And his army of steroid babies, yes.

 

[Scotty]

England u20s aka Other Nations Shopping List

Forwards

Olly Adkins (Gloucester), Josh Basham (Durham University), Will Capon (Bristol Bears), Richard Capstick (Exeter Chiefs), Alex Coles (Northampton Saints), Nic Dolly (Sale Sharks), James Dun (Bristol Bears), Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers), Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors), Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester), Joel Kpoku (Saracens), Samson Ma'asi (Northampton Saints), Kai Owen (Worcester Warriors), James Scott (Worcester Warriors), Marcus Street (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Willis (Wasps).

Backs

Tom De Glanville (Bath), Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints), Connor Doherty (Sale Sharks), Ollie Fox (Yorkshire Carnegie), Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers), Ollie Hassell-Collins (London Irish), Josh Hodge (Newcastle Falcons), Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors), Sam Maunder (Exeter Chiefs), Cadan Murley (Harlequins), Cameron Redpath (Sale Sharks), Arron Reed (Sale Sharks), Ollie Sleightholme (Northampton Saints), Marcus Smith (Harlequins), Gus Warr (Sale Sharks), Kieran Wilkinson (Sale Sharks).

I know alot of names from this squad which is a good thing, many of which with some prem experience.

So
1. Marcus street(1 or 3 im not sure)
2.
3. Ollie Adkins (again not sure 1 or 3)
4. Joel Kpoku
5. Richard Capstick
6. Ted Hill
7. Josh Basham
8. Tom Willis
9. Sam Maunder
10. Marcus Smith
11. Caden Murley
12. Cameron Redpath
13. Fraiser Dingwall
14. Ollie Sleightholme
15.

Thats just from memory so may be a few mistakes but the fact i can make almost a full 15 from memory is a good sign

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

I know alot of names from this squad which is a good thing, many of which with some prem experience.

So
1. Marcus street(1 or 3 im not sure)
2.
3. Ollie Adkins (again not sure 1 or 3)
4. Joel Kpoku
5. Richard Capstick
6. Ted Hill
7. Josh Basham
8. Tom Willis
9. Sam Maunder
10. Marcus Smith
11. Caden Murley
12. Cameron Redpath
13. Fraiser Dingwall
14. Ollie Sleightholme
15.

Thats just from memory so may be a few mistakes but the fact i can make almost a full 15 from memory is a good sign

Street’s a 3 and I doubt Capstick will be a lock, he came through the age groups as a 7 and is only 6’3 and 103kg. Looks like a strong squad though.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Aaron Reed and Kieron Wilkinson have been getting a lot of senior game time for Sale this season so I'd imagine they'll be in our first choice 23,
Warr is really highly rated as well, works a lot with Faf de Klerk and has started to play in that same style. Wouldn't be surprised to see an all Sale 21, 22, 23 (though I'd start Reed)

Dolly is a unit, as well - I thought he was in his early 20s, only when this squad was announced did I realise he was this young.
Played a lot of openside before settling at hooker.

 

[Scotty]

Street’s a 3 and I doubt Capstick will be a lock, he come through the age groups as a 7 and is only 6’3 and 103kg. Looks like a strong squad though.

So the 2 i got wrong were the Chiefs? Well thats embarrassing as a Chiefs fan lol my bad.

Did not do the bench as i was running out of people i knew, but warr and wilkinson would have deffinatly become 21 22 and im not sure i remember who reed is though i know the name.

Looking forward to this tounement tbh, is it televised?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

im not sure i remember who reed is though i know the name.

Winger, he's been getting game time since Yarde's injury (with McGuigan dropping in and out through internationals and hamstring issues). Started the last two Euro games for us

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Yeah it’s a team with a good bit of talent but if we had a generational player like Ryan on it we’d know about it by now.

Hawkshaw has been hyped since Junior cup. Straight into the 20s out of school, can't do much more than that.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Looking forward to seeing French, Hawkshaw, Moore and Baird for Ireland.

 

[Scotty]

Will it be on tv?

 

[MikeTheNative]

S4c and BBC Two Wales usually show the Welsh games, are the English ones on sky?

 

[curtbob7]

I think if Cole's featuring for the seniors we would be looking to have Heyes back. Would benefit more from starting at 3 for us than playing 3 or 18 for the under 20's.

 

[MikeTheNative]

I think if Cole's featuring for the seniors we would be looking to have Heyes back. Would benefit more from starting at 3 for us than playing 3 or 18 for the under 20's.

Wales do the same, if selected the regions take preference. It's better experience for the players at the end of the day.

 

[Leinster Fan]

Penny is class, he's got a very bright future. The one question is his size but he doesn't lack impact in contact and is really really fast around the pitch (probably could have been a back in another world, he scores loads of tries as well.)

Leinster probably need him as much as Ireland right now though with all of our other sevens in the senior squad/injured. I'm not sure what the precedent is when they come into conflict though.

Hawkshaw is a big prospect and I've heard great things about French.

 

[Leinster Fan]

Penny is class, he's got a very bright future. The one question is his size but he doesn't lack impact in contact and is really really fast around the pitch (probably could have been a back in another world, he scores loads of tries as well.)

Leinster probably need him as much as Ireland right now though with all of our other sevens in the senior squad/injured. I'm not sure what the precedent is when they come into conflict though.

Hawkshaw is a big prospect and I've heard great things about French.

This definitely looks better than last years squad but that's not saying much (which to be fair was Caelan Doris and not much else except for Kelleher/Tommy O'Brien). It's hard to say how a team will do without seeing them play though. The Irish system isn't really great at producing U20 teams tbh, the Ryan/Stockdale team was a fluke.

 

[Amiga500]

Stewart Moore (Malone/Ulster)

From a very reputable member on the Ulster forum:

"I was chatting to a member of the squad over the summer and I was asking who was looking good in preseason. His reply ‘Will Addison and Stewart Moore are different level’. At this stage I didn’t know much about Addison."

His word is more than good enough for me.

Unfortunately he got injured in a preseason match shortly after.

 

[Leinster Fan]

From a very reputable member on the Ulster forum:



His word is more than good enough for me.

Unfortunately he got injured in a preseason match shortly after.

What position does he play?

 

[Amiga500]

Centre.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Costelow is a serious talent for the Wales 10.

IMO best 10 in the U18 league currently by some distance.

 

[Leinster Fan]

Centre.

Is he likely to be fit?

Does anyone know whether Hawkshaw is set to play 12 or 10?

 

[Groundhog]

Is he likely to be fit?

Does anyone know whether Hawkshaw is set to play 12 or 10?

It's a good question, because Byrne has a season under his belt there and Healy was really good for Glenstal last year as well, but I think French is primarily a 12 too. I honestly wasn't hugely impressed with Byrne last year, but his pack was often outmuscled.

 

[Leinster Fan]

It's a good question, because Byrne has a season under his belt there and Healy was really good for Glenstal last year as well, but I think French is primarily a 12 too. I honestly wasn't hugely impressed with Byrne last year, but his pack was often outmuscled.

Can't say I was overly impressed with Byrne last either but he wasn't given much to work with and year can make a big difference at this level, his time with the A team for Leinster will stand to him as well (ditto for Healy at Munster if I'm not getting player mixed up).

If Moore is fit it's really gotta be Hawkshaw-French-Moore, other wise Byrne and moving the other two out might be our best bet.

We actually look decent this year, plenty of talented players in several different positions. The worry is that England look class and that a big defeat in the first game could shatter the squads confidence.