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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 26 2009, 04:44 AM)
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How is Brussouw out of position? He plays 6 for the Cheetahs and South Africa.[/b]
Well, you have 2 open side flankers. 6 and 7 in South Africa are different from 6 and 7 anywhere else.
1.Tony Woodcock
2.kevin Mealamu
3.Carly Hayman
4.Brad Thorn
5.Ali Williams
6.Jerome Kaino
7.Richie McCaw
8.Rodney So'oialo
9.Peri Weepu
10.Daniel Carter
11.Sitivini Sivivatu
12.Ma'a Nonu
13.Conrad Smith
14.Joe Rokocoko
15.Mils Muliaina
16.Andrew Hore
17.John Afoa
18.Adam Thompson
19.Jimmy Cowan
20.Luke McAlister
21.Richard Kahui
22.Cory Jane
While I realise this may not be the world XV, it is closer to the token 1 or 2 All Blacks that seem to be put into peoples squads. Of the best 22 players in people actually believe that only 1 of those are in the All Blacks?!
Not taking away anything from the other teams, and many positions I agree with, but be a bit more realistic.
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you really take the cake. You really telling me a team that can't beat the Springboks and hasn't set the world alight this autumn has a right to have a lot of players in the world XV?
Let's look logically:
front row - Woodcock makes a strong case; the others are nothing special.
2nd row - at least Botha, Matfield and O'Connell are far ahead.
back row - McCaw is in everyone's team. no one else is anything special.
9 - Cowan is average.
10 - Carter is on everyone's list.
centres - Nonu is good but not quite good enough. Conrad Smith is world class but for O'Driscoll who is out of this world.
wings - Sivivatu has had a shaky year, excellent in patches and poor in others. no one else sticks their hand up.
fullback - Muliaini is awesome.
So, 3 players is about fair from my XV.
Don't really see what the issue is.
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No, I understand that there are better players in many other decisions, however remarks such as "can't beat South Africa" seem pointless, as New Zealand has consistantly been the top Tri Nations team excpet this year, and yet the list of players on these lists still remain with few New Zealanders.
Noidsay, Munster Man, Kicklikeaprop, KZNSharksFan all put Brussow ahead of McCaw, the only player that is consistanly on anyones list is Carter, and for some odd reason Mils Muliaina on the wing. I'd rate Nonu on a good day above Roberts, as Nonu was Super 14's highest try scorer and the AB's most dangerous player this year, however I may be alone in arguing that. And Sivivatu on the wing instead of Mils makes more sence with Mils at Fullback. Also Cory Jane has been NZ's best wing this year it seems, and yet people still rate Sivivatu over him. I just don't understand peoples logic. Woodcock I'd rate higher then Jenkins (could be bias), but he hasn't had a great year, so I can understand leaving him out.
By the way, my previous list was more out of sarcasm then my actual opinion.