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A Political Thread pt. 2

So cap goes up by nearly £700 and the government gives 80% of people £150 one off payment and £200 discount that will be paid £40 per year. Supposedly this is party that understands ordinary people and wants to level up. As Blindside said, it's literally going to be a choice between keeping warm and buying food for many people and many are already there trying to balance it. It's not enough.
Also not clear if governement is funding all of the council tax rebate as he not reducing VAT on energy bills. That could lead to a shortfall in council spending whihc are alaready harmstrung over years of lack of central funding.
 
We seem to be spending more and more on less and less.

Difficult to see what meaningful long term actions can be taken. We have to pay for the covid measures but that extra money needs to come from those who can shoulder the burden. At the moment a large chunk of extra costs are being dropped on those who are already struggling. This is going to suppress the economy for some time...

Also an argument for shifting towards greener energy that is less prone to international fluctuations in oil and gas prices.
 
Long term plan needs to be to secure UK’s energy and not rely largely on gas to produce electricity and heating. Wind power not enough on its own. Does mean probably looking towards nuclear power plants (subject to the whole nuclear waste and also ensuring safety - avoiding Chernobyl/Fukushima type accidents) and where are we other sustainable sources including Hydrogen?
 


Man who signed deal, cheered it on and ultimately won election on the deal, claims it's crazy that part of the deal is implemented

It's like these people have schizophrenia, they sign something and then a few months down the line are like "which bumbling moron negotiated this pile of crap?"
 
Long term plan needs to be to secure UK’s energy and not rely largely on gas to produce electricity and heating. Wind power not enough on its own. Does mean probably looking towards nuclear power plants (subject to the whole nuclear waste and also ensuring safety - avoiding Chernobyl/Fukushima type accidents) and where are we other sustainable sources including Hydrogen?
Hydrogen is far off and speculative in my opinion. My query about this topic is that with the initial price hike last year we were told an absence of wind (which there was) was a factor in increasing fuel prices and we need to go mad with nuclear. Well, it's been blowing a gale up here consistently for 3 months now and prices still go up by a further 50%, so was that just a load of nonsense? I'm not even that hostile to nuclear.

The UK is so lucky with renewable energy. England reportedly has roughly twice the average wind speed of the continent and Scotland has roughly twice the wind speed of England. Plus the north sea is very shallow which makes installation more feasible (although some turbines now float). Despite the stereotype of British weather there are plenty areas where there is loads of sunlight but the approach to solar energy is piecemeal at best.

The one that frustrates me is the lack of movement on tidal energy. There are four tides a day where enormous quantities of water are shifted by the unstoppable gravitational pull of a giant rock in space. The UK harnesses hardly any of that energy despite having thousands of miles of coastline. Korea leads the way on this but nobody has yet made the major breakthrough.

Oh, and the EU just called burning the remaining finite quantity of a fossil fuel as being 'sustainable'. So it's not just the UK messing things up.


My only hope is that these soaring energy prices and events in Ukraine focus the minds of those in the corridors of power that the status quo is not an option and energy independence is probably as important a government priority as you can get.
 
Hydrogen is far off and speculative in my opinion. My query about this topic is that with the initial price hike last year we were told an absence of wind (which there was) was a factor in increasing fuel prices and we need to go mad with nuclear. Well, it's been blowing a gale up here consistently for 3 months now and prices still go up by a further 50%, so was that just a load of nonsense? I'm not even that hostile to nuclear.

The UK is so lucky with renewable energy. England reportedly has roughly twice the average wind speed of the continent and Scotland has roughly twice the wind speed of England. Plus the north sea is very shallow which makes installation more feasible (although some turbines now float). Despite the stereotype of British weather there are plenty areas where there is loads of sunlight but the approach to solar energy is piecemeal at best.

The one that frustrates me is the lack of movement on tidal energy. There are four tides a day where enormous quantities of water are shifted by the unstoppable gravitational pull of a giant rock in space. The UK harnesses hardly any of that energy despite having thousands of miles of coastline. Korea leads the way on this but nobody has yet made the major breakthrough.

Oh, and the EU just called burning the remaining finite quantity of a fossil fuel as being 'sustainable'. So it's not just the UK messing things up.


My only hope is that these soaring energy prices and events in Ukraine focus the minds of those in the corridors of power that the status quo is not an option and energy independence is probably as important a government priority as you can get.
Never got the argument that nuclear isn't a sustainable energy source. Old technology in Uranium reactors is not necessarily the best but there are modern reactors that do a much better job and there is a whole set of other nuclear activities using Thorium etc that are barely looked at and good extend the viability of nuclear energy for thousands of years with far more inherent safety. Completely ditching it as an alternative comes across as little more than short sighted popularism. It's also vastly overstated just how much nuclear waste is produced. The total waste produced by all US reactors ever is 64,000 tons. That would be 14 olympic swimming pools full. Sounds like a lot but considering that is the total produced ever in the USA and the amount of power got out of that, it really isn't that much.
 
Never got the argument that nuclear isn't a sustainable energy source. Old technology in Uranium reactors is not necessarily the best but there are modern reactors that do a much better job and there is a whole set of other nuclear activities using Thorium etc that are barely looked at and good extend the viability of nuclear energy for thousands of years with far more inherent safety. Completely ditching it as an alternative comes across as little more than short sighted popularism. It's also vastly overstated just how much nuclear waste is produced. The total waste produced by all US reactors ever is 64,000 tons. That would be 14 olympic swimming pools full. Sounds like a lot but considering that is the total produced ever in the USA and the amount of power got out of that, it really isn't that much.

Yes, I personally dont have a problem with nuclear for the next couple of decades as long as its well away from tectonic plates, isn't done on the cheap and is only used where there is a clear shortfall.
 


Feeble and utterly shameless. He wasn't making any point, it was a ******* pathetic dig attempting to use the actions of a disgusting paedophile against someone who had nothing to do with the lack of prosecution. The fact Johnson said it at all shows exactly the sort of person he is, absolute scum.
 
Long term plan needs to be to secure UK’s energy and not rely largely on gas to produce electricity and heating. Wind power not enough on its own. Does mean probably looking towards nuclear power plants (subject to the whole nuclear waste and also ensuring safety - avoiding Chernobyl/Fukushima type accidents) and where are we other sustainable sources including Hydrogen?
I never understand why we didn't invest more in tidel power. The seven estuary has some of the largest tidel surges in the world. Plus its more reliable than wind power which isn't delivering its expected results
 
I've noticed on Twitter than some commentators and members of the public are claiming that there is a Remainer plot and coup in process.... In order to stop Brexit
 
I've noticed on Twitter than some commentators and members of the public are claiming that there is a Remainer plot and coup in process.... In order to stop Brexit
I mean yeah that's always the case ita not like these were a bunch of deplorables that should of never been near High office in the first place that was never going to end in tears.
 
Apparently Martin Reynolds, the Principal Private Secretary who sent the party email with byob, is to stay in his role until a successor is found before moving to a role in the foreign office. How the **** does this guy already have a new job within the civil service?
 
So faced with the energy price crisis, the government decides to allow companies to drop the costs onto us and offers to loan people money that they can pay back at a date conveniently set after when the next election will be. In the mean time the likes of BP have seen profits rise to record levels, many utilities companies have passed on billions in dividends and the energy companies are getting interest free loans...

We are all being fleeced for the benefit of the few.
 
So faced with the energy price crisis, the government decides to allow companies to drop the costs onto us and offers to loan people money that they can pay back at a date conveniently set after when the next election will be. In the mean time the likes of BP have seen profits rise to record levels, many utilities companies have passed on billions in dividends and the energy companies are getting interest free loans...

We are all being fleeced for the benefit of the few.
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The French government will force EDF, the state energy giant, to take an €8.4bn (£7bn) financial hit to protect households from rocketing energy costs by limiting bill hikes to 4% this year.
Across the Channel...
 


Tories laughing and jeering at Rachel Reeves response says it all. Granted she is the opposition and by our wonderful parliamentary convention she is supposed to criticise, but at least have the decency to look serious and sombre about the issue. The fact that they can laugh at all shows how little this issue affects them or how much they care about it.
 

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