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[McTallshort]

There have also been a LOT of unreal claims made here, you just don't see or want to counter them. In reality or not, is receive a lot less personal abuse and name calling amongst the MAGA, they tend to insult for an extreme political position i don't hold, posters here verbally insult, and will go hunt down things I've said on other threads, in an attempt to manipulate those comments to abuse.

Oh **** off with your sad little victim mentality. If you're going to come on and talk **** don't be surprised if people call you out on it.

Seriously grow a pair and as for Chicago he wasn't harassed off at all. He come on with a very arrogant attitude (I want Greenland) and got challenged on it.

 

[dirty harry]

Oh **** off with your sad little victim mentality. If you're going to come on and talk **** don't be surprised if people call you out on it.

Seriously grow a pair and as for Chicago he wasn't harassed off at all. He come on with a very arrogant attitude (I want Greenland) and got challenged on it.

Case in point!

Charming fella this

 

[Welsh Exile]

Case in point!

Charming fella this

Be honest, when @McTallshort replied with what he did, did you smile/laugh or were you offended?

Basically, are you not trying to get a response like this? Be honest now.

 

[McTallshort]

Be honest, when @McTallshort replied with what he did, did you smile/laugh or were you offended?

Basically, are you not trying to get a response like this? Be honest now.

He laughed....

 

[dirty harry]

I think there's a world of difference between getting some facts wrong on an evolving story that's just broken compared to holding the opinion that an election was rigged YEARS after the fact. And even when evidence is shown to tje contrary the belief is still strong. If people on here want to still defend things that are demonstrably untrue then I will call that out if I can be arsed. I certainly don't care about what other people think of me with regards to any political views I have, I trust people on here to know me well enough to know I'm honest (most of the time) and try and engage in good faith with people I disagree with.

But you would not acknowledge that is a standard in American politics right? Refusing to acknowledge publicly that elections weren't rigged... like Pelosi, Waters, Clinton and Schumer have done about 2016, and 2024 constantly?

And that's MAGAs points sometimes, why should they concede, when Democrat politicians won't?

 

[Welsh Exile]

But you would not acknowledge that is a standard in American politics right? Refusing to acknowledge publicly that elections weren't rigged... like Pelosi, Waters, Clinton and Schumer have done about 2016, and 2024 constantly?

And that's MAGAs points sometimes, why should they concede, when Democrat politicians won't?

Because what Trump has done is not standard and you know it. If you really believe it is then show me any dem president (or any president) who has for years and years claimed that an election was rigged even when it was proved that it wasn't the case? Even after he won an election fairly he still goes on about it. This is not standard behaviour mate but i’ll wait for you to show me the evidence to prove your claim.

 

[dirty harry]

Be honest, when @McTallshort replied with what he did, did you smile/laugh or were you offended?

Basically, are you not trying to get a response like this? Be honest now.

I have 0 emotion to being insulted by the same 4 or 5 posters here, my level of respect for them isn't very high TBH, their contributions are as boring as they are vitriolic, and just reinforce that they can't address the argument.

So no I don't get any joy from people getting angry, and throwing insults on the Internet. Infact the idea of verbally insulting a stranger on the Internet is wild to me, I couldn't envisage a situation where my emotions get the better of me and I couldn't control what I type lol.

My standpoint are simple, and easy to understand, as I keep reiterating I am anti Trump, I just don't care how irrational people react to that, and I just shows how much they need me, and a voice of reason in this thread.

Look at the Mciver case, noone wants to talk about it now, there is video evidence of her pushing ICE agents and assisting in the scrum at the detention centre, in which she brought people now allowed entry, and protesters and lots of cameras in an attempt to instigate a situation for political gains. This was Greta esque it seems, like Padilla who stormed a briefing room live on air. You guys must see these stunts by now surely?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

So apparently Trump believed the trade deal with the UK was actually a deal with the EU.

It's also quite a contrast really that Trump wanted a military parade when he had called soldiers who died in conflict "losers".

He also sends to be dedicating a lot of effort into batting for Putin in the G7. You have to be seriously deluded if you don't think Russia have something on him.

 

[dirty harry]

Because what Trump has done is not standard and you know it. If you really believe it is then show me any dem president (or any president) who has for years and years claimed that an election was rigged even when it was proved that it wasn't the case? Even after he won an election fairly he still goes on about it. This is not standard behaviour mate but i’ll wait for you to show me the evidence to prove your claim.

Hang on, take a breathe. We were talking election denial, which is standard across Dems and Republicans who all have idiots who do it. Trump's case was different in the extent he allegedly went to behind the scense, but denial is very much a common practise.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Because what Trump has done is not standard and you know it. If you really believe it is then show me any dem president (or any president) who has for years and years claimed that an election was rigged even when it was proved that it wasn't the case? Even after he won an election fairly he still goes on about it. This is not standard behaviour mate but i'll wait for you to show me the evidence to prove your claim.

Don't bother, already been there with him. When he can't claim an action is normal, he claims Dems are just as bad, when he can't show Dems are as bad, he says Trump is playing a character and should be ignored.

 

[dirty harry]

He laughed....
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Yep, I laugh at all silly comments.

 

[dirty harry]

So apparently Trump believed the trade deal with the UK was actually a deal with the EU.

It's also quite a contrast really that Trump wanted a military parade when he had called soldiers who died in conflict "losers".

He also sends to be dedicating a lot of effort into batting for Putin in the G7. You have to be seriously deluded if you don't think Russia have something on him.

All those hookers urinating on him have turned him into an assett hahahaa

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Dirty Harry with his usual bullshit response to any comment pointing out facts about Trump.

Sad little troll.

 

[Welsh Exile]

All those hookers urinating on him have turned him into an assett hahahaa

Here’s a good question, and before you get your knickers in a twist I’m not saying he is a Russian asset but let’s assume the **** tapes are real and Trump is a Russian asset, what type of things would you expect Trump to do?

 

[McTallshort]

Yep, I laugh at all silly comments.

You should read back through some of yours then

 

[dirty harry]

Here’s a good question, and before you get your knickers in a twist I’m not saying he is a Russian asset but let’s assume the **** tapes are real and Trump is a Russian asset, what type of things would you expect Trump to do?

It would depend on his performance on the tapes lol.

But no seriously, had the tapes been real, and he was a Russian asset, i dont think Putin would have waited for a power vacuum of Biden before going into Ukraine. It would make more sense if Putin to invade and have Trump play defence late teens.

I'd also say, Trump would attempt to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

Idealogical subversion would be the main goal I think, demoralise a generation through indoctrination, destabilise the country with economic downfall and negative attitudes toward military, send the country into crisis and attempt a radical change in governmental structure, and then normalisation in which a new political doctrine is established.

EDIT. Sorry I said that's what I would do, i meant to say that's what the Russians would do, as detailed by former Russian agents who said that's what they were doing. It wasnt meant to be a trap.

 

[McTallshort]

So apparently Trump believed the trade deal with the UK was actually a deal with the EU.

It's also quite a contrast really that Trump wanted a military parade when he had called soldiers who died in conflict "losers".

He also sends to be dedicating a lot of effort into batting for Putin in the G7. You have to be seriously deluded if you don't think Russia have something on him.

I don't think Putin has anything on him but he does admire Putin as do a lot of his cabinet. He is seen by many in the MAGA world as a great (white) Christian leader who crushes wokeness and loves his people.

I'm sure Harry will give us some examples

 

[Welsh Exile]

It would depend on his performance on the tapes lol.

But no seriously, had the tapes been real, and he was a Russian asset, i dont think Putin would have waited for a power vacuum of Biden before going into Ukraine. It would make more sense if Putin to invade and have Trump play defence late teens.

I'd also say, Trump would attempt to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

Idealogical subversion would be the main goal I think, demoralise a generation through indoctrination, destabilise the country with economic downfall and negative attitudes toward military, send the country into crisis and attempt a radical change in governmental structure, and then normalisation in which a new political doctrine is established.

EDIT. Sorry I said that's what I would do, i meant to say that's what the Russians would do, as detailed by former Russian agents who said that's what they were doing. It wasnt meant to be a trap.

Kinda sounds like that’s what he’s doing. For me, I’d agree but I’d also add, I’d expect him to undermine US institutions, I’d expect him to get people to question the democratic electoral process, I’d expect him to create division within the US amongst it’s citizens, I’d expect him to parrot Russia taking points while at the same time weakening trusted, age old alliances. Kind of weird isn’t it.

 

[dirty harry]

Kinda sounds like that’s what he’s doing. For me, I’d agree but I’d also add, I’d expect him to undermine US institutions, I’d expect him to get people to question the democratic electoral process, I’d expect him to create division within the US amongst it’s citizens, I’d expect him to parrot Russia taking points while at the same time weakening trusted, age old alliances. Kind of weird isn’t it.

I mean, there are some parallel behaviours, but MAGA would also argue he's undoing all of that that has been ongoing for decades.

I can't remember the name of the Russian KGB defector who made these claims, but he made them about the American left.

Using education to promote Marxism, anti capitolism, military, and police and pro large government ideals. Put those indoctrinated into positions of power, to emasculate young men and disrupt the nuclear family. Pit men against women, White against non white, straight against non straight, these are Democrat tactics no?

The constant effort of calling Trump a fascist dictator, encouraging civil unrest, going against the rule of law... I'd say Russia are probably in the destabilisation stage, and the eradication of borders and capitalism is en route.

Now I'd disagree with the outcome that MAGA come to, that he is the great white hope, I think he's using this type of stuff to his advantage.

 

[dirty harry]

I don't think Putin has anything on him but he does admire Putin as do a lot of his cabinet. He is seen by many in the MAGA world as a great (white) Christian leader who crushes wokeness and loves his people.

I'm sure Harry will give us some examples

They wanted him as the new pope didnt they, I saw pics of him as it.