USA news & politics

[Yulia]

It is only for the person whose body it is to decide.
Anyone else may have opinion but the weight of that opinion should only be on the person who is pregnant who is the decision maker.

Men also participate in the "process". They can't give a birth but it's not their fault. If there are no life-threatening or health-threatening factors for a woman and a baby then it should be a mutual decision and man should also have a voice in such a situation,imo. Also it's complicated I agree...

 

[ncurd]

Should state my personal views on abortion is I would only advise it in the cases of threatened severe mental or physical effect on my partner or the child would have severe mental or physical problem (in this case I'd be unsure).
But I don't consider it my place to enforce my views on others.

Men also participate in the "process". They can't give a birth but it's not their fault. If there are no life-threatening or health-threatening factors for a woman and a child then it should be a mutual decision and man should also have a voice in such a situation,imo. Also it's complicated I agree...

If the woman does not want to be pregnant the male is forcing her to be pregnant in your scenario. This will likely cause severe mental and physical effect on them. A mutual decision is ideal but sometimes it can not be obtained.

 

[Welsh Exile]

It is only for the person whose body it is to decide.
Anyone else may have opinion but the weight of that opinion should only be on the person who is pregnant who is the decision maker.

Medically what is easiest at that point? That's the only determining factor, at 8 months I'm betting cesarian section/adoption is actually the best option.
Its more 6/7 months where I'd agree its complex but I don't question a person reasonings to wanting to terminate a pregnancy only because it feels like I'm policing someone else's mental health.

Forget about what’s medically easiest, let’s pretend that a child is a day away from being born and the mum decides she wants an abortion and the dr has the technology that can terminate the pregnancy with no harm to the mother, would you support that?

I’m not even saying it’s morally wrong to support that by the way. Just very tricky situation.

You can take it even further, what if you woke up one morning and you were hooked up to your 2 year old child and a dr said that you need to stay hooked up to your kid for 10 weeks otherwise he’ll die. Tricky one.

 

[ncurd]

Forget about what's medically easiest, let's pretend that a child is a day away from being born and the mum decides she wants an abortion and the dr has the technology that can terminate the pregnancy with no harm to the mother, would you support that?

I'm not even saying it's morally wrong to support that by the way. Just very tricky situation.

You can take it even further, what if you woke up one morning and you were hooked up to your 2 year old child and a dr said that you need to stay hooked up to your kid for 10 weeks otherwise he'll die. Tricky one.

For me its about feasibility of fetus, plenty of people have induced labours or planned caesarian this is still "terminating a pregnancy" with a perfectly healthy child. The crossover for me is when at terminating the pregnancy should the state put effort in allowing the fetus/child having viability of life outside the womb without putting of where the womb came from to have any responsibility for it.

On third point I'm not required to be a organ/blood donor for anyone why should that scenario be any diffrent? (Not a decision I'd make, I give blood and a registered organ donor)

 

[Saintjay]

It's difficult. Especially if it's a relationship where the male wants to have the child but the female for career reasons or what ever doesn't. Just because the mother might not want or love the child it doesn't necessarily mean the father would as well.

The government deem a father would be financially responsible for a child with maintenance as he has to accept some form of responsibility for the pregnancy. Yet can't have any choice or responsibility on having the child or not.

Still I side on ultimately it's the females decision.

 

[ncurd]

The government deem a father would be financially responsible for a child with maintenance as he has to accept some form of responsibility.

Separate issue but a father that has always been absent (by choice or not) should be absolved of all financial responsibility. If they have been involved they should.

 

[AlRums]

Anas Al-Sharif became the face of the war in Gaza for millions. Then Israel killed him

https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/11/middleeast/anas-al-sharif-al-jazeera-reporter-intl

Anas al-Sharif, prominent Al Jazeera correspondent, among five journalists killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza

Israel admits deliberate attack on the journalist, known for frontline coverage, in a strike on a tent outside al-Shifa hospital

www.theguardian.com

 

[dirty harry]

Separate issue but a father that has always been absent (by choice or not) should be absolved of all financial responsibility. If they have been involved they should.

I dont thinknthays separate, a man should have the option pre birth or abortion to disregard his duties. This would give the woman a far more informed choice.

Ultimately, these conversations are always convoluted, and people fail to recognise the difference between an abortion, and abortion legislation, these are 2 very different things.

A man cannot tell a woman to kill or force her to keep a child, men do and of course need to be part of the conversation about abortion legislation.

 

[AlRums]

Trump’s pick for BLS commissioner suggests suspending the monthly jobs report

https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/12/economy/antoni-bls-mulls-suspending-jobs-report

Anything to hide bad news

 

[McTallshort]

Anas Al-Sharif became the face of the war in Gaza for millions. Then Israel killed him

https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/11/middleeast/anas-al-sharif-al-jazeera-reporter-intl

Anas al-Sharif, prominent Al Jazeera correspondent, among five journalists killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza

Israel admits deliberate attack on the journalist, known for frontline coverage, in a strike on a tent outside al-Shifa hospital

www.theguardian.com

Deliberately targeting journalists? Not surprised

 

[AlRums]

Australia to recognize Palestinian state, leaving US increasingly isolated among key allies

https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/11/australia/australia-palestinian-state-september-intl-hnk

 

[AlRums]

This Is What Happens When You Test Positive For Marijuana After Giving Birth In Idaho

Keeva Rossow is one of hundreds of women who have been punished for purported "child abuse" of a fetus — despite giving birth to a healthy baby.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[ChicagoKid]

CPI numbers stable. Cities getting cleaned up. Border closings at all time lows. Big beautiful bill helping my tax bill. Ukraine war seems near a conclusion. Vance warning UK to straighten up or face his wrath in 3 years. Football about to start. Fall is nearly here.

Historically good first 8 months.

 

[Saintjay]

CPI numbers stable. Cities getting cleaned up. Border closings at all time lows. Big beautiful bill helping my tax bill. Ukraine war seems near a conclusion. Vance warning UK to straighten up or face his wrath in 3 years. Football about to start. Fall is nearly here.

Historically good first 8 months.

The same Vance loving life in the Cotswolds on holibobs. Glad to get away from the rampant violence on the streets of America.

You guys can't even worry Greeland and Canada. What's he going to do send us a strongly worded Email.

Even your assassin's are ****. A nation of gun owners, who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

US woman Aimee Betro convicted over failed assassination in UK

Aimee Betro has been found guilty of conspiracy to murder over the failed shooting in 2018.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ncurd]

Australia to recognize Palestinian state, leaving US increasingly isolated among key allies

https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/11/australia/australia-palestinian-state-september-intl-hnk

The USA has key allies?

 

[Saintjay]

The USA has key allies?

Will probably still try and invoke article 5 of Nato when they roll tanks into Chicago/Washington.

 

[dirty harry]

This Is What Happens When You Test Positive For Marijuana After Giving Birth In Idaho

Keeva Rossow is one of hundreds of women who have been punished for purported "child abuse" of a fetus — despite giving birth to a healthy baby.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Thoughts?

 

[ChicagoKid]

The same Vance loving life in the Cotswolds on holibobs. Glad to get away from the rampant violence on the streets of America.

You guys can't even worry Greeland and Canada. What's he going to do send us a strongly worded Email.

Even your assassin's are ****. A nation of gun owners, who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

US woman Aimee Betro convicted over failed assassination in UK

Aimee Betro has been found guilty of conspiracy to murder over the failed shooting in 2018.

www.bbc.co.uk

I don't know who that is. I've never heard her name.

Another shǐt BBC article paid by an increasingly poor society.

Sad

 

[Yulia]

Thoughts?

Only uncensored ones

 

[dirty harry]

Only uncensored ones

Its an interesting one isnt it...

A woman's right to kill a fetus is her right to choose, and her body her choice, but if she takes drugs that could damage or kill the fetus she can be criminalised.

Im not sure why the article seems to go to bat for the mother, THC ingestion in utero can be problematic, not just short term but longer term in learning difficulties and behaviours.

There is a lack of concensus in long term studies, and some of the studies with regard to cannabis is outdated is probably the best way to look at it.

I found the phrase: 'The idea that fetuses should be treated as people is the foundation of pregnancy criminalization' super interesting.

Where the article really loses me, is when discussing drug use during pregnancy 'these statutes surveil and criminalize women like Rossow, making pregnant people second-class citizens to the very fetuses they carry.'

Pregnant people (lol) should be classed 2nd class when they actively choose to do harm to the baby inside of them, in that scenario safeguarding a baby is more important than the mothers want to get high.