A Political Thread pt. 2

[Saintjay]

Are the people involved directly with Palestine Action or those protesting its proscription as a terrorist group with a lack of information to why its been singled out separate from any other direct action group.

I think it's clear why tbh. I'm not aware of any direct action groups recently who've broken into military bases and damaged equipment or attacked police officers and workers with sledge hammers. Not actions I'd support or show a sign supporting. I guess the protesters are ok with it

The Wagner group are prescribed and yet caused no issues within the UK. Nobody would probably advocate there ban is lifted.

I think if further information comes to light then people could potentially look very stupid.

You could hold up a sign up saying stop the ban or similar. No crime or conviction or drain on public services They know exactly what they are doing.

 

[Reiser99]

Gaza City will be razed if Hamas does not agree our terms, Israel minister says

Hamas should disarm and release all Israeli hostages, Israel Katz says, as country prepares a massive attack on Gaza City.

www.bbc.com

If you don't surrender we'll destroy everyone's homes and destroy civilians infrastructure. Wait sorry, the whole city is a network or Hamas tunnels. My mistake.

Everything Israel is doing is leading towards a ghetto camp in Rafah.

 

[dirty harry]

Im waiting to see an AWJ making love to Tipuric flag mounted on a lampost somewhere... ay @Welsh Exile ?

 

[Saintjay]

Gaza City will be razed if Hamas does not agree our terms, Israel minister says

Hamas should disarm and release all Israeli hostages, Israel Katz says, as country prepares a massive attack on Gaza City.

www.bbc.com

If you don't surrender we'll destroy everyone's homes and destroy civilians infrastructure. Wait sorry, the whole city is a network or Hamas tunnels. My mistake.

Everything Israel is doing is leading towards a ghetto camp in Rafah.

Concerns me it's going to be an intern camp. If one country on earth should have an issue with moving people into camps it's Israel.

Have they learnt nothing from there own terrible history. I think most Jews would be horrified.

 

[ncurd]

I think it's clear why tbh. I'm not aware of any direct action groups recently who've broken into military bases and damaged equipment or attacked police officers and workers with sledge hammers.

The issue is that's not being said or well known in left wing quarters. The govenment are barely mentioning it.

The majority of the public and probably those protesting the ban think its just spray painting some aircraft.

 

[Which Tyler]

UN human rights agency says Gaza famine is direct result of Israel’s actions and may amount to war crime – Middle East crisis live

A report by Forensic Architecture and the World Peace Foundation says Israel has dismantled the proven model of aid distribution

www.theguardian.com

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

www.theguardian.com

 

[McTallshort]

Canada, Wales, Scotland flags everywhere when you visit. I don't think it's done for intimidation to remind people who's country it is.

The problem is getting people to move past the thinking of flying the flag is racist and more to thinking like the countries listed above.

Well that's it. There are union flags everywhere and every church has a st George cross flying above it. I've not actually seen anyone forced to take one down anywhere.

 

[dirty harry]

Well that's it. There are union flags everywhere and every church has a st George cross flying above it. I've not actually seen anyone forced to take one down anywhere.

I dont think its the case of agencies or formal requests to remove flags, its more the narrative.

A group in Bormingham put some up, the council react instantly to remove them, give poor excuses as to why, but allow other flags to fly.

People then start putting more up, and painting little white roundabouts etc, and the councils really quick rapid fire response to taking them down and painting over them, within a couple of hours in some cases helps push the narrative that British culture is being erased, and not wanted by the powers that be.

An ex council worker made a video on his astonishment of how quickly a council could react, with traffic scheduling, risk assessment, work orders and stuff, to bypass these things and act very quickly usually required an emergency incident in which non action would be a public safety risk.

If Reform are kind of behond this, it would be incredibly clever.

 

[McTallshort]

I dont think its the case of agencies or formal requests to remove flags, its more the narrative.

A group in Bormingham put some up, the council react instantly to remove them, give poor excuses as to why, but allow other flags to fly.

People then start putting more up, and painting little white roundabouts etc, and the councils really quick rapid fire response to taking them down and painting over them, within a couple of hours in some cases helps push the narrative that British culture is being erased, and not wanted by the powers that be.

An ex council worker made a video on his astonishment of how quickly a council could react, with traffic scheduling, risk assessment, work orders and stuff, to bypass these things and act very quickly usually required an emergency incident in which non action would be a public safety risk.

If Reform are kind of behond this, it would be incredibly clever.

What are the bylaws for flag flying? Wouldn't putting a flag at a roundabout/motorway bridge be a form of littering?

 

[Saintjay]

What are the bylaws for flag flying? Wouldn't putting a flag at a roundabout/motorway bridge be a form of littering?

Depends on the arguement if it's 'litter'. Don't think it would fit tbh. Bit like someone leaving a plant pot outside a council flat door, the communal area belongs to the council but the plant pot wouldn't be litter

Still the council have the right to remove it.

 

[AlRums]

What are the bylaws for flag flying? Wouldn't putting a flag at a roundabout/motorway bridge be a form of littering?

Isn't there a safety consideration? If a flag fell off a motorway bridge on to a car, there could be far reaching consequences.

 

[McTallshort]

Isn't there a safety consideration? If a flag fell off a motorway bridge on to a car, there could be far reaching consequences.

Yeah that is true. That's why I asked about bylaws. Pretty sure just flying a random flag on public property isn't allowed for all kinds of reasons.

 

[dirty harry]

What are the bylaws for flag flying? Wouldn't putting a flag at a roundabout/motorway bridge be a form of littering?

Whatever they are, flags are allowed, and have been flown for a while, Palestine and rainbow flags seem to be non issue (not necessarily my argument).

The argument that lampposts cant take the weight of a flag though lol.

And the roundabouts took a lick of red paint...

I wouldnt have thought littering counts, there are videos of Birmingham suburbs and rec areas plowed with different flags hung all over.

 

[dirty harry]

Isn't there a safety consideration? If a flag fell off a motorway bridge on to a car, there could be far reaching consequences.

So no flags should be flown?

I think thats their argument, flags are flown regularly, its only the cross that seems to be the problem

 

[McTallshort]

I wouldnt have thought littering counts, there are videos of Birmingham suburbs and rec areas plowed with different flags hung all over.

Flown from people's gardens or public property?

 

[Saintjay]

Evidently flags are regarded as an advertisement under the Town and Country Planning Act. How ever it's depends on various rules, planning and exceptions

The article opens with "Flags are a very British way of expressing joy and pride" Also that the government wants to see more flags especially the Union flag.

However lately it appears all flags are equal, but some flags are more equal than others.

(I really need to get out more)

Flying flags: a plain English guide

www.gov.uk

 

[dirty harry]

Evidently flags are regarded as an advertisement under the Town and Country Planning Act. How ever it's depends on various rules, planning and exceptions

The article opens with "Flags are a very British way of expressing joy and pride"

However lately it appears all flags are equal, but some flags are more equal than others.

(I really need to get out more)

Flying flags: a plain English guide

www.gov.uk

"Flags are a very British way of expressing joy and pride – they are emotive symbols which can boost local and national identities, strengthen community cohesion and mark civic pride."

Well that worked hahaha

 

[Which Tyler]

I hate that I even knew to look for this.
I 100% blame Ali

 

[Saintjay]

I hate that I even knew to look for this.
I 100% blame Ali

Haha, forget this. Today you have won the Internet.

 

[dirty harry]

Haha, forget this. Today you have won the Internet.

This is primed for a Tommy Robinson crossover...

Stephen Yaxlet Lennon presents fun with flags hahaha