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[Welsh Exile]

In that case then just apologise, only one Of us quoted out of context, because I never quoted, only you did...

No, you didn’t even quote what he said. You just said “Biden said this….” when he didn’t say that at all.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Are you ok? Do you need to chat?

Bidens comments on Americans needing F15s was absolutely not an attack on the American people, and I absolutely defended him when he said it, as I have said over and over...

But they are the same, which i said, in that their opposing side reacted hysterically and non honestly!!!!

You've embarrassed yourself here bud, ive never diverted from my position that bumbling words, off the cuff comments, jokes and memes do not make an authoritarian! I defended Biden, I'll defended Trump, and I'll defended the next Republican or Democrat president when the pearl clutching hysteria folk go after them...

No it wasn't because he was taking about gun control. What was the point Trump was trying to make in that meme?

You say they are the same as both opposing sides react hysterically but I'm not asking you that, I'm asking you are the 2 things the same. So I'll ask one more time, is Biden saying you need F15s to take down a government (not his government) different to a president posting a meme that Trump did with him saying "you'll find out why it's called the department of war

You can say Trump is joking, fine, but Biden didn't misspeak, wasn't doing a meme and was making a specific point abut a specific thing. Are these 2 things the same?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Im not sure if you are aware but the right have circled this years ago lol.

Well duh, he’s a KGB defect talking 41 years ago during the Cold War. Lol.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

When have I defended that, why are you pretending I didnt criticise that?

The hyperbole was you presenting this meme as an intention to mass murders chicagoans... you react like CNN, and you play into hos game.

Id like to say your better than that, but your actions show your not.

Nowhere did I present it as an intention to mass murder, again you make something up and present it as fact.

I said his use of the imagery was unacceptable, I didn't say it indicated intent to mass murder.

I'd like to say you are better than claiming someone is saying something they aren't but your actions show you're not.

 

[dirty harry]

"A president of the USA gleefully using imagery of destroying one of his own cities"

"using the imagery of mass, indiscriminate slaughter against his own city."

Nooooo... these comments arent you presenting Trumps intention to mass murders, just destroying cities and slaughtering people, you were just joking no?

This is you being rational, and logical? Hahaha

 

[dirty harry]

Well duh, he's a KGB defect talking 41 years ago during the Cold War. Lol.

Ill let you decide what hes saying, and why the right have plastered it everywhere as anti Demoxrat talking points...

 

[AlRums]

"A president of the USA gleefully using imagery of destroying one of his own cities"

"using the imagery of mass, indiscriminate slaughter against his own city."

Nooooo... these comments arent you presenting Trumps intention to mass murders, just destroying cities and slaughtering people, you were just joking no?

This is you being rational, and logical? Hahaha

Are you that obtuse?

He was clearly referencing the film apocalypse now and the Robert duvall character who clearly led a "mass, indiscriminate slaughter" in his scenes.

Don't be so stupid as to try and turn that into anything else that wasn't expressed.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Ill let you decide what hes saying, and why the right have plastered it everywhere as anti Demoxrat talking points...

What point do you think you’re making here?

You going to answer my question from earlier?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

"A president of the USA gleefully using imagery of destroying one of his own cities"

"using the imagery of mass, indiscriminate slaughter against his own city."

Nooooo... these comments arent you presenting Trumps intention to mass murders, just destroying cities and slaughtering people, you were just joking no?

This is you being rational, and logical? Hahaha

Are you thick? In both those comments I specifically said the IMAGERY of them.

You're the one pretending that's normal and little more than baiting, which means you think it's acceptable.

Do you even know what famously happens in apocalypse now?

If he had posted a picture of a nuke going off over Chicago, and made the same comment, would you also be dismissing that as just "bait" or would you say that it is unacceptable for a president to use that sort of symbolism?

For someone who claims to love nuance, you are ******* failing at it once again.

 

[AlRums]

Broadcasters told not to air any booing of Donald Trump at US Open men’s final

US Open broadcasters have been asked not to show any negative crowd reactions to Donald Trump at Sunday’s men’s final

www.theguardian.com

Sounds like censorship to me.

Alvarez says I can't hear you cheering for the chump

 

[Bada-Bing!]

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Alvarez says I can't hear you cheering for the chump

It’s Alcaraz.

 

[Ddanno]

Can we have a middle finger reaction?

 

[Vaquer]

I WAS calling Trump irresponsible for his social media use BECAUSE it depicts a scene from a movie of indiscriminate destruction and murder that he is then targeting at Chicago so no, you would not be with me like you claim as proven by you immediately adopting the contrarian **** act you always do once again.

Let's see if we can get a straight answer out of you for once, do you think it is acceptable for the PRESIDENT to use such imagery? Yes or no?

You're best off blocking the Trump defence legion when you find it. They don't want to be deradicalised and you won't deradicalise them. They've won in their head every time you engage.

 

[dirty harry]

Are you thick? In both those comments I specifically said the IMAGERY of them.

You're the one pretending that's normal and little more than baiting, which means you think it's acceptable.

Do you even know what famously happens in apocalypse now?

If he had posted a picture of a nuke going off over Chicago, and made the same comment, would you also be dismissing that as just "bait" or would you say that it is unacceptable for a president to use that sort of symbolism?

For someone who claims to love nuance, you are ******* failing at it once again.

Except i have repeatedly criticised it, over and over, your justifying having an argument with your imagination.

Its irresponsible, but absolutely designed to bait his opponents into over reacting, which you are doing lol.

If people would not fall into his trap 3 times a week he would have gone away years ago, I mean how you guys manage to function on a daily basis being this offended and upset I'll never know.

When you act like an offended housewife, you get laughter at, when Republicans did the same with Biden, and Obama, they also get laughed at, and when the opposing team of the next president do the exact same routine, oh marr gooorrrrrdddd this is tyranny shtick, they'll get laughed at too!

But let me ask, where has this hysteria got you? Has it negatively affected him? Reduced his power? Shortened his terms? Benefitted your own life?

I suspect the answer is no, and as you say you are baffled and confused as to how he has stayed in power, well im not, it makes perfect sense, and I think the history books when looking back without emotional will probably agree with me, divisive ******** played the media perfectly, got 2 terms and will go down with a bit of a legacy good and bad...

If museums still exist hahaha

 

[dirty harry]

You're best off blocking the Trump defence legion when you find it. They don't want to be deradicalised and you won't deradicalise them. They've won in their head every time you engage.

This is the most dangerous attitude to have, block out opposing opinions, pop your fingers in your ears, and shout louder to not listen to reason...

Its the entire problem right now!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Get a lot of use out of this with the "I'm not right wing, I'm just asking questions" lot

 

[Seeker]

Republicans brace for redistricting ‘catastrophe’ in California

The state party’s annual convention was overshadowed by angst over the consequences of redistricting in a deep-blue state.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Welsh Exile]

Except i have repeatedly criticised it, over and over, your justifying having an argument with your imagination.

Its irresponsible, but absolutely designed to bait his opponents into over reacting, which you are doing lol.

If people would not fall into his trap 3 times a week he would have gone away years ago, I mean how you guys manage to function on a daily basis being this offended and upset I'll never know.

When you act like an offended housewife, you get laughter at, when Republicans did the same with Biden, and Obama, they also get laughed at, and when the opposing team of the next president do the exact same routine, oh marr gooorrrrrdddd this is tyranny shtick, they'll get laughed at too!

But let me ask, where has this hysteria got you? Has it negatively affected him? Reduced his power? Shortened his terms? Benefitted your own life?

I suspect the answer is no, and as you say you are baffled and confused as to how he has stayed in power, well im not, it makes perfect sense, and I think the history books when looking back without emotional will probably agree with me, divisive ******** played the media perfectly, got 2 terms and will go down with a bit of a legacy good and bad...

If museums still exist hahaha

So what should people should do when the most powerful people in the world are acting irresponsibly? pretend to praise it, ignore it? What exactly? We're clearly not allowed to criticise it as that apparently is the main reason why he won and continues to win (it's not) so what should people do exactly? Say "hey Trump, great meme bro. Looooool" I think that's what his supporters do.

 

[Welsh Exile]

My personal favourite comment has been that if Biden had only done more memes like Trump where he is using a famous war film as a troll to his own citizens in Chicago it would have somehow, apparently, humanised Biden more.

Not the fact he had a wife and child die in a car crash, or another child who died from brain tumour. None of that silly stuff, no, we needed to see him in army gear pretending he wants to lead an assault on Chicago. That’s what would’ve humanised him more. Maybe to a sociopath, sure.

 

[dirty harry]

So what should people should do when the most powerful people in the world are acting irresponsibly? pretend to praise it, ignore it? What exactly? We're clearly not allowed to criticise it as that apparently is the main reason why he won and continues to win (it's not) so what should people do exactly? Say "hey Trump, great meme bro. Looooool" I think that's what his supporters do.

Thats just an intentionally misdirection of my position, you know thats not the argument, so why would you pretend it is?