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[dirty harry]

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/14/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel

Yee ol Trumpet reckons a peace deal has been struck, and to no one's surprise, it's all gone back to how it was before.

How long do we reckon this 'peace' will last....

Give it a week, and I reckon either Iran will attack some ship or Israel will bomb someone

Its a difficult situation isnt it, Trump will claim victory at every opportunity, but how does anyone fix the middle east...

 

[Welsh Exile]

Its a difficult situation isnt it, Trump will claim victory at every opportunity, but how does anyone fix the middle east...

More brown people will come over to replace our whiteness though. What are we supposed to do????

 

[mackerzz]

Its a difficult situation isnt it, Trump will claim victory at every opportunity, but how does anyone fix the middle east...

The reality is it's unfixable. The Middle East has been warring for millennia....

The only way to 'fix' it is to remove the people from their lives

 

[ChicagoKid]

The reality is it's unfixable. The Middle East has been warring for millennia....

The only way to 'fix' it is to remove the people from their lives

Same with Wales. Gotta turn it to glass.

 

[mackerzz]

It's not really relevant, but it would be fascinating to know what the media and the world's opinion on the Iran war would be if social media didn't exist.
Same with Trump as a whole, really.

Obviously, the world wouldn't be able to follow so closely, but the ability for the Iranians to sway opinions through social media propaganda definitely made a difference imo

 

[dirty harry]

It's not really relevant, but it would be fascinating to know what the media and the world's opinion on the Iran war would be if social media didn't exist.
Same with Trump as a whole, really.

Obviously, the world wouldn't be able to follow so closely, but the ability for the Iranians to sway opinions through social media propaganda definitely made a difference imo

Similar to Hamas...

I think Palestine and Iran were basically new current things, like Ukraine, none of these wars are new, but the outcry against the bigger country certainly is.

Had social media been around 25 years ago the anti US sentiment in Iraq would have been massive, Gretas mum may have had a crack at getting to Baghdad

 

[mackerzz]

Similar to Hamas...

I think Palestine and Iran were basically new current things, like Ukraine, none of these wars are new, but the outcry against the bigger country certainly is.

Had social media been around 25 years ago the anti US sentiment in Iraq would have been massive, Gretas mum may have had a crack at getting to Baghdad

Absolutely. It still fuks me off seeing people parading around with Palestine flags. Like buddy, I don't think you have any idea what's actually going on over there. All you are doing is reading the news and getting all up in arms about some alleged indiscretion.

It really makes me laugh when they have a Palestine flag in one hand and an LGBTQ whatever flag in the other. doubt you would last a day in an Islamic country doing that

 

[ChicagoKid]

Similar to Hamas...

I think Palestine and Iran were basically new current things, like Ukraine, none of these wars are new, but the outcry against the bigger country certainly is.

Had social media been around 25 years ago the anti US sentiment in Iraq would have been massive, Gretas mum may have had a crack at getting to Baghdad

100%

It’s why I have no strong opinions on what’s going on in Gaza. Two of the most sophisticated propaganda regimes in human history are waging a physical and information war.

Why the hell would I think I’m smart enough to a.) cut through the noise to get the truth and b.) simultaneously understand thousands of years of context.

I know my intellectual limitations.

 

[mackerzz]

100%

It’s why I have no strong opinions on what’s going on in Gaza. Two of the most sophisticated propaganda regimes in human history are waging a physical and information war.

Why the hell would I think I’m smart enough to a.) cut through the noise to get the truth and b.) simultaneously understand thousands of years of context.

I know my intellectual limitations.

fair fair. Each side has their own spin on things.

all with the goal of making themselves look great, and the other horrible

 

[Welsh Exile]

Yes and no. Personally, I tend to lean towards that not that much has changed really. We’ve been having variations of these debates since Ancient Greece and before and we’ll probably keep having them until the robots take over.

 

[mackerzz]

Yes and no. Personally, I tend to lean towards that not that much has changed really. We’ve been having variations of these debates since Ancient Greece and before and we’ll probably keep having them until the robots take over.

? Yes and no to what

 

[dirty harry]

Absolutely. It still fuks me off seeing people parading around with Palestine flags. Like buddy, I don't think you have any idea what's actually going on over there. All you are doing is reading the news and getting all up in arms about some alleged indiscretion.

It really makes me laugh when they have a Palestine flag in one hand and an LGBTQ whatever flag in the other. doubt you would last a day in an Islamic country doing that

Yes, but when 2 current things are popular you have to support both, Queers for Palestine is a curious group certainly.

 

[Welsh Exile]

? Yes and no to what

Yes and no that social media has had this huge effect on everything. It has and it hasn’t.

 

[dirty harry]

100%

It’s why I have no strong opinions on what’s going on in Gaza. Two of the most sophisticated propaganda regimes in human history are waging a physical and information war.

Why the hell would I think I’m smart enough to a.) cut through the noise to get the truth and b.) simultaneously understand thousands of years of context.

I know my intellectual limitations.

Thats a proper humble post. Im probably a bit similar, my stance has been at times to condemn certain actions certainly by Isreal, i dont think theres a rational person alive who wouldnt say they havnt comitted some bad acts, but certainly using Hamas reports as fact is ludicrous.

Interestingly the US are really bad at this currently, youd think with all thebrecourses at their disposal, they would dominate an information war for the hearts and minds, maybe its the internal radicalisation of both sides of thebpolitical isle fuelling the abti US sentiment

 

[Welsh Exile]

That’s your favourite word isn’t it, “radicalisation”

Especially funny coming from the guy who believes in a right wing conspiracy theory that is pumped out on line. Also funny how Chicago kid won’t go near certain geopolitical situations due to propaganda but laps up all the MAGA propaganda at home.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Sorry, when I say “MAGA propaganda” I mean Russian propaganda mostly.

 

[ChicagoKid]

fair fair. Each side has their own spin on things.

all with the goal of making themselves look great, and the other horrible

Yes and no. Personally, I tend to lean towards that not that much has changed really. We’ve been having variations of these debates since Ancient Greece and before and we’ll probably keep having them until the robots take over.

That’s your favourite word isn’t it, “radicalisation”

Especially funny coming from the guy who believes in a right wing conspiracy theory that is pumped out on line. Also funny how Chicago kid won’t go near certain geopolitical situations due to propaganda but laps up all the MAGA propaganda at home.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Maybe those are the guys behind the Kalergi plan?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Well Trump just used the G7 to smear Obama and claimed the Iranians thought he was a "stupid son of a *****".

Even for the crowd that accept Trumps vulgarity, this must be stepping over the line. It's incredible how easily his followers accept the complete abandonment of any sense of decency or decorum from Trump.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Well Trump just used the G7 to smear Obama and claimed the Iranians thought he was a "stupid son of a *****".

Even for the crowd that accept Trumps vulgarity, this must be stepping over the line. It's incredible how easily his followers accept the complete abandonment of any sense of decency or decorum from Trump.

He’s so epic and funny though.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

TBF, everyone thinks that Trump is a "stupid son of a *****"

 

[ChicagoKid]

Well Trump just used the G7 to smear Obama and claimed the Iranians thought he was a "stupid son of a *****".

Even for the crowd that accept Trumps vulgarity, this must be stepping over the line. It's incredible how easily his followers accept the complete abandonment of any sense of decency or decorum from Trump.

 

[dirty harry]

Well Trump just used the G7 to smear Obama and claimed the Iranians thought he was a "stupid son of a *****".

Even for the crowd that accept Trumps vulgarity, this must be stepping over the line. It's incredible how easily his followers accept the complete abandonment of any sense of decency or decorum from Trump.

Trump said something nasty and uncouth? Whoa, thats not like him hahaha

 

[ChicagoKid]

Trump said something nasty and uncouth? Whoa, thats not like him hahaha

The Pearl Clutching got old midway through 2016. 10 years later it feels like a Three Stooges re-run.

I don't understand all the energy focused on the US, when the UK is a straight-up basket case. England is governed like a 3rd world sub-saharan country.

 

[dirty harry]

The Pearl Clutching got old midway through 2016. 10 years later it feels like a Three Stooges re-run.

I don't understand all the energy focused on the US, when the UK is a straight-up basket case. England is governed like a 3rd world sub-saharan country.

Because even the UK at its worst is less 'Housewives of Orange county'than US politics...

 

[Quel Carreleur]

According to Trump, this is Meloni "begging" him for a photo .

Dunno about you guys, but that body language doesn't scream "begging for a favour"

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

And the resident trolls proving my point. Expectations of the most basic levels of decorum thrown out of the window.

 

[dirty harry]

And the resident trolls proving my point. Expectations of the most basic levels of decorum thrown out of the window.

As it was 10 years ago....

Yet here you are, consistently complaining about something even MAGA fans agree with 10 years later, like its tge end of the world.

Trump is a prick, im not sure anyone disagrees, so how exactly does your whining about him saying bad words counter Trumps consistent rising populariry?

 

[Welsh Exile]

I know you probably think there was some funny business going on in 2020 but he did actually lose that election.

 

[dirty harry]

I know you probably think there was some funny business going on in 2020 but he did actually lose that election.

You ok hun? You seem to be having a random conversation with.... yourself!