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[General Melchett]

Trump being the minority shareholder in Jan 6th is beyond wild.

 

[dirty harry]

I won't lie I didn't read all of that (could've of done a TLDR) but I got the general point.

I don't see how any of these things in anyway absolves Trump of trying to overturn a legitimate election result and to constantly undermine the democratic process. Biden, Clinton, Obama or any republican never would've dreamed of insulting the constitution the way Trump did. How has BLM or Hunter Biden got anything to do with this?

Trump is a bad loser and couldn't accept he lost so tried to cheat his way into staying in office and he failed. That's on him and his enablers.

Where did i say it absolved Trump of anything, infact where have i defended Trump in any shape or form?

Ive given reasons for why the political climate, and Democrat involvement contributed to the entire nonsense.

Trump can be as to blame as he is, AND Democrats can absolutely hold themselces responsible for their contribution at the same time no.

 

[dirty harry]

It really is very simple, without Trump's continual dismissal of the legitimate results, and his illegal acts to overturn it, Jan 6th doesn't happen.

His pardoning of those involved also shows he agreed with their actions and didn't feel they should be punished.

There is nothing else that needs to be said, Trump caused Jan 6th and Trump condones Jan 6th.

Is it 100% on Trump, nothing the Democrats did in the election cycle cobtributed whatsoever?

Let me ask, what were the reasons for the BLM rioting in the summer?

 

[dirty harry]

Trump being the minority shareholder in Jan 6th is beyond wild.

Hahahaha you try to end a post with a joke, and the hysteria comes out to play lol

 

[Welsh Exile]

Where did i say it absolved Trump of anything, infact where have i defended Trump in any shape or form?

Ive given reasons for why the political climate, and Democrat involvement contributed to the entire nonsense.

Trump can be as to blame as he is, AND Democrats can absolutely hold themselces responsible for their contribution at the same time no.

Where did say you absolve Trump of anything? The bit when I asked you who is to blame and you said 40% Trump. That bit.

It's kinda like being alive in 1939 and saying "well, I know Hitler invaded Poland but what about the treaty of Versailles and the poor economic climate"

You wouldn't be wrong to point those things out but it doesn't take away any of the blame on Hitler and the Nazis who were 100% responsible for the act of invading Poland and starting WW2.

 

[ncurd]

 

[dirty harry]

Where did say you absolve Trump of anything? The bit when I asked you who is to blame and you said 40% Trump. That bit.

It's kinda like being alive in 1939 and saying "well, I know Hitler invaded Poland but what about the treaty of Versailles and the poor economic climate"

You wouldn't be wrong to point those things out but it doesn't take away any of the blame on Hitler and the Nazis who were 100% responsible for the act of invading Poland and starting WW2.

Jesus not you as well hahahaha

I thought despite saying it wouldnt be possible, and then adding Soros made it obviously a joke ffs

 

[Welsh Exile]

Jesus not you as well hahahaha

I thought despite saying it wouldnt be possible, and then adding Soros made it obviously a joke ffs

So Trump is 100% to blame?

 

[Ddanno]

Trump Denies Writing 36-Volume Comic Titled ‘Don And Jeff: Time Pedophiles’

WASHINGTON—Dismissing the swashbuckling sci-fi romp as “a total hoax” amid growing scrutiny over his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, President Donald Trump made remarks Tuesday denying that he had written a 36-volume comic titled Don And Jeff: Time Pedophiles. Obtained last month by the House...

theonion.com

Put a t
Then an i
Then another t

In place of the asterisks

Stoopid filter.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

January 6th wasn't the test?
Grab them by then pussy wasnt the test?

We've long since past the point where I can tolerate anyone on a moral level for supporting Trump.

fair point

Perfectly exampled.

why do you seem incapable of something as simple as "yeah....thats ******* bad", the whole diversion to "your radicalised" at every turn is very "gas lighty"...kind of abusive behaviour

Ive not met a supporter who wants a 3rd term, of maybe a dozen Americans i know personally who support him, and i dont think hes making 3rd term comments regularly, hes being fielded questions about 3rd term regularly though...

He literally just dismissed a question about a 3rd term, and discussed Rubio and Vance has having his support, and the BBC still ran an article about Trump discussing 3rd term lol (im still bittwr about the BBC lowering themselves in that article lol).

But ive missed something, what new has come out about Trump knowing about Epsteins dealings? Ive only read the releases that state Giuffre was an attendant at his hotel, and he offered her babysitting duties as a favour to her atrendant father, isnt Giuffre the victim that Trump spent hours with, the same person who bavks Trumps innocence?

What have i missed?

he's definately trolling and feeding the narative, hes selling Trump 2028 merch in his offical store, yes that doesnt mean hes actually going to do it...but it feeds the BS factory

 

[Ddanno]

fair point


why do you seem incapable of something as simple as "yeah....thats ******* bad", the whole diversion to "your radicalised" at every turn is very "gas lighty"...kind of abusive behaviour


he's definately trolling and feeding the narative, hes selling Trump 2028 merch in his offical store, yes that doesnt mean hes actually going to do it...but it feeds the BS factory

Save yourself a lot of time and irritation and just block him

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

BBC News - US justice department sues California over new voting maps favouring Democrats

US justice department sues California after redistricting

The new maps in California favour Democrats and cancel out gains made by Republicans after they redistricted in Texas.

www.bbc.com

This is just so ******* ridiculous... Trump and the Republicans have created a new level of shameless partisan hypocrisy. The same administration that openly and repeatedly advocated gerrymandering is now suing a state for gerrymandering.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

BBC News - UK billionaire Joe Lewis receives pardon from Trump

UK billionaire Joe Lewis receives pardon from President Trump

The businessman, whose family trust owns Tottenham Hotspur, pleaded guilty in 2024 to insider trading as part of a deal with prosecutors.

www.bbc.com

And would you look at that,
Trump pardoning yet another rich guy guilty of financial crimes.

 

[General Melchett]

BBC News - US justice department sues California over new voting maps favouring Democrats

US justice department sues California after redistricting

The new maps in California favour Democrats and cancel out gains made by Republicans after they redistricted in Texas.

www.bbc.com

This is just so ******* ridiculous... Trump and the Republicans have created a new level of shameless partisan hypocrisy. The same administration that openly and repeatedly advocated gerrymandering is now suing a state for gerrymandering.

It's him thinking he's America's CEO and trying to run the country like a business. He is clearly opportunistic when it comes to being litigious and picking fights with Democrat states and media channels creates noise and enemies. It also gives Fox news content while the other channels are reporting on the Epstein scandal.

 

[Welsh Exile]

BBC News - UK billionaire Joe Lewis receives pardon from Trump

UK billionaire Joe Lewis receives pardon from President Trump

The businessman, whose family trust owns Tottenham Hotspur, pleaded guilty in 2024 to insider trading as part of a deal with prosecutors.

www.bbc.com

And would you look at that,
Trump pardoning yet another rich guy guilty of financial crimes.

If I recall correctly, and I should probably just read the article, but the Joe Lewis thing wasn't that big of a deal. Think it was just him giving his pilot some inside info as a little bonus. Hardly the crime of the century but I agree with the general gist of your post.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

If I recall correctly, and I should probably just read the article, but the Joe Lewis thing wasn't that big of a deal. Think it was just him giving his pilot some inside info as a little bonus. Hardly the crime of the century but I agree with the general gist of your post.

Looks like it goes beyond that, it was 16 counts of securities fraud and three of conspiracy with the estimate worth of those investments in the millions.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Looks like it goes beyond that, it was 16 counts of securities fraud and three of conspiracy with the estimate worth of those investments in the millions.

Ah ok then. lol.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Math illiterate Trump stumped by how refund checks and tariffs work: report

President Donald Trump is apparently stumped by math and how refund checks work after announcing he wants to give Americans $2,000 checks paid for by his tariffs — then expressing bewilderment about where the money would come from. The 79-year-old president promised to send rebates to "low and...

www.rawstory.com

TL;DR Trump claims that he will pay $2000 from the tariffs paid by foreign countries to low income Americans and that the rest will substantially pay down the national debt.
1) Americans pay the tariffs, not foreign countries
2) The tariff money raised is vastly less than the lost income from the tax cuts.
3) The money raised from tariffs is less than the amount that would be paid out if they paid $2000 per low and medium income family, leaving nothing to reduce the debt.

So Trump again showing he either doesn't have a ******* clue about anything, or is shamelessly lying through his teeth. Seeing as a certain poster seems physically unable to accept the possibility that Trump is actually thick as **** and doesn't appear to understand many basic concepts, the only conclusion must be that he is a compulsive liar. Or, for the rest of us, he is both.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

but his supporters care more about getting $2000 than the $2600 (my guess based on things being about $50 a week more expensive now) that the tariffs have cost them.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Math illiterate Trump stumped by how refund checks and tariffs work: report

President Donald Trump is apparently stumped by math and how refund checks work after announcing he wants to give Americans $2,000 checks paid for by his tariffs — then expressing bewilderment about where the money would come from. The 79-year-old president promised to send rebates to "low and...

www.rawstory.com

TL;DR Trump claims that he will pay $2000 from the tariffs paid by foreign countries to low income Americans and that the rest will substantially pay down the national debt.
1) Americans pay the tariffs, not foreign countries
2) The tariff money raised is vastly less than the lost income from the tax cuts.
3) The money raised from tariffs is less than the amount that would be paid out if they paid $2000 per low and medium income family, leaving nothing to reduce the debt.

So Trump again showing he either doesn't have a ******* clue about anything, or is shamelessly lying through his teeth. Seeing as a certain poster seems physically unable to accept the possibility that Trump is actually thick as **** and doesn't appear to understand many basic concepts, the only conclusion must be that he is a compulsive liar. Or, for the rest of us, he is both.

I’ve said for months I don’t think Trump actually knows what a tariff is.