2017 Americas Rugby Championship

[petite]

Mainly from domestic league but some of them also train in "Pladar", so its like a pro squad vs Amateur sides. As for making the cut to Jags, probably some will but not a replacement for Sanchez to be found among them =(

idont think arg xv fieded their best posible team it was more like a b team even for arg xv there`s been a rotation during all the tournament. most of the players are very young. the selectors are thinking more of the future. we will see some of this guys stepping in los jaguares in years to come.

ignacio larrague has been impresive he´s just 21 201 mts 120 kg he´ll be good with lavanini in a year or too, the jaguares need second rowers! last year we ended up playing with ortega desio as second rower. he can play but only as a replacement he isn´t tall or heavy enough. guido petti did good but he´s also small for an international level (194 and 108 kg) if you compare with lavaninis 202mts and 130 kg the difference is quite ovbious.
cancellieri has been good too (i realy dont like bertanou or ezcurra) he could be an interesting prospect to replace cubelli and landajo.
luna and delguy looked good in the back line so did julian dominguez, we need an option for tuculet!

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Good win for the USA against Canada it seems. Anyone watch this one?

Unfortunately not and it doesn't seem to be coming up on YouTube yet.

 

[die_mole]

Good win for the USA against Canada it seems. Anyone watch this one?

i did, nothing memorable about it

 

[Welshdragon2000]

i did, nothing memorable about it

Wasn't the score like 50-30 or something? Combination of poor defence and good attack I'm guessing. Also was either side anywhere near full strength?

 

[Brigantine]

Has a relatively large effect on the rankings - 1.8 points. Enough to put USA within 1 point of Romania, and drop Canada below Namibia and Russia into 20th place.

They can climb back just as easily this weekend though by beating Uruguay.

 

[argie]

Round 3
Canada vs USA (Full Match)



https://youtu.be/V_mD9J5B9Bs

CANADA - 34
Tries â€" T. Paris 2 (14’, 56’), P. Mack (20’), G. Barton (68’), A. Cejvanovic (77’)
Cons â€" R. Povey (21’), G. McRorie 2 (69’, 78’)
Pens â€" R. Povey (36’)
Yellow cards â€" R. Barkwill (38’)

USA - 51
Tries â€" R. Matyas (2’), M. Te’o 3 (4’, 45’, 71’), A. Purpura (39’), T. Clever (53’), J. Quill (64’)
Cons â€" S. Davies 5 (3’, 40’, 54’, 65’, 72’)
Pens â€" W. Magie (11’), S. Davies (31’)

TEAMS

CANADA
1 Rob Brouwer (17 Djustice Sears-Duru 50’), 2 Ray Barkwill (capt.) (16 Benoît Pifféro 58’), 3 Matt Tierney (18 Cole Keith 66’), 4 Conor Keys, 5 Reegan O’Gorman, 6 Lucas Rumball, 7 Ollie Nott (16 Benoît Pifféro 44’-47’) (20 Lucas Albornoz 58’), 8 Admir Cejvanovic, 9 Phil Mack (21 Gordon McRorie 55’), 10 Robbie Povey, 11 Taylor Paris (23 George Barton HT-44’, 66’), 12 Guiseppe du Toit, 13 Nick Blevins (22 Gradyn Bowd HT), 14 Dan Moor, 15 Brock Staller

Not used: 19 Liam Chisholm

USA
1 Anthony Purpura (18 Ben Tarr 56’), 2 Peter Malcolm (16 James Hilterbrand 50’), 3 Chris Baumann (17 Dino Waldren 50’), 4 Nate Brakeley, 5 Nick Civetta (19 Siaosi Mahoni 66’), 6 Todd Clever (capt.) (21 David Tameilau 56’), 7 Tony Lamborn (20 John Quill 61’), 8 Cam Dolan, 9 Shaun Davies (23 Spike Davis 72’), 10 Will Magie, 11 Nate Augspurger, 12 JP Eloff, 13 Bryce Campbell, 14 Ryan Matyas (22 Ben Cima 50’), 15 Mike Te’o

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Damián Schneider (UAR)
Assistants: David Smortchevsky (RC) & David Crisp (RC)

Attendance: 3,416

 

[Matt7557]

The US played very well. Impressed as always with Mikey Te'o and Will Magie kicking from the field. If Magie can get it together in front of posts he'll be a shoe in for the number two fly half behind Macginty

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Wasn't the score like 50-30 or something? Combination of poor defence and good attack I'm guessing. Also was either side anywhere near full strength?

I think there are obvious difficulties getting their top players in Europe released. I think the Canadian side was considered more experimental and pretty youthful in their forwards at least. I'll be having a look at the match, thanks Argie!

 

[argie]

The standings at three rounds.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

The US continue to improve under Mitchell which makes me eat my words. I hope they beat the Argentina XV as losing the tournament is the only way that Argentina will ever consider playing a full test side, or at least a very strong second XV in the matches that don't clash with Super Rugby.

 

[argie]

I'm agree but Arg XV has a very strong team. The same as the Eagles, so it will be a match very similar to last year. They are at the same level.
IMO there are three mini-tournaments, or rivals to win, and the equivalences are like this:
- USA and Arg XV
- Canada and Uruguay
- Chile and Brazil

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Yes. I think Brazil could maybe have competed with Uruguay if they had been hosting the match. A little disappointing Canada lost quite heavily to the US in Canada.

 

[FNS]

We cant put a full test side cause they are on jags/non pick-able Europe players. This is as strong as it gets maybe some players could be spared yet there is no gain in that. We need to give younger players play time and if we beat everyone by 50 there is no fun what so ever to the crowds.

This level is fine, i hope USA wins so its boast rugby there.

 

[CocoPampas]

As last year it seems that USA and Canada are taking different aproach to this turnament. Showing USA a stronger team.
Now we will see how this second part of the tournament (including the traveling) afects them (USA didn't handled it very well last year).

Later this year (during the RWC qualification) we will see if USA is actually stronger that Canada (as the ranking currently shows), or if Canada still can beat them.

 

[CocoPampas]

Excellent result for Uruguay against Canada:
Highlights: http://www.espn.com.ar/video/clip/_/id/2997958

 

[argie]

Round 4
Uruguay vs Canada (Full Match)



https://youtu.be/vSdxueD_xZs

URUGUAY - 17
Tries – L. Leivas (19'), Penalty try (26')
Cons – G. Albanell (20')
Pens – G. Albanell (11')
Yellow cards – G. Albanell (49'), F. Lamanna (73')

CANADA - 13
Tries – C. Trainor (75')
Cons – B. Staller (76')
Pens – G. McRorie 2 (4', 50')
Yellow cards – B. Staller (25')

TEAMS

URUGUAY
1 Mateo Sanguinetti (16 Facundo Gattas 59'), 2 Martín Espiga, 3 Juan Echeverría (18 Mario Sagario 51'), 4 Ignacio Dotti, 5 Diego Ayala (20 Diego Magno 66'), 6 Juan Manuel Gaminara (capt.) (19 Juan Diego Ormaechea 65'), 7 Franco Lamanna, 8 Alejandro Nieto, 9 Santiago Arata (21 Guillermo Lijtenstein 56'), 10 Germán Albanell, 11 Nicolás Freitas, 12 Andrés Vilaseca, 13 Juan Manuel Cat (23 Gastón Mieres 61'), 14 Leandro Leivas, 15 Rodrigo Silva

Not used: 22 Gastón Gibernau

CANADA
1 Rob Brouwer (17 Djustice Sears-Duru 69'), 2 Ray Barkwill, 3 Matt Tierney, 4 Brett Beukeboom, 5 Reegan O'Gorman (19 Liam Chisholm 56'), 6 Clay Panga (20 Matt Beukeboom 61'), 7 Lucas Rumball, 8 Admir Cejvanovic, 9 Gordon McRorie (capt.) (21 Phil Mack 59'), 10 Robbie Povey (22 Gradyn Bowd HT), 11 Kainoa Lloyd (23 Guiseppe du Toit 69'), 12 Nick Blevins, 13 Conor Trainor (23 Guiseppe du Toit 25'-28'), 14 Dan Moor, 15 Brock Staller

Not used: 18 Cole Keith

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Derek Summers (USAR)
Assistants: Joaquín Montes (URU) & Rodrigo Goyret (URU)

 

[argie]

Round 4
Argentina XV vs Brazil (Full Match)



https://youtu.be/NzMdWePvcag

ARGENTINA XV - 79
Try: Cancelliere (2), Brada, de la Vega (2), Brandi, Schultz, Larrague, Bazán Vélez (2), Boffelli, Cappiello
Conversion: Miotti (3), Granella (4), Boffelli
Penalty: Miotti
Yellow Card: Medrano

BRAZIL - 7
Try: Duque
Conversion: Duque
Yellow Card: Smith, Paganini

ARGENTINA XV
1 Franco Brarda, 2 Marcelo Brandi, 3 Alejo Brem, 4 Pedro Ortega, 5 Ignacio Larrague, 6 Mariano Romanini, 7 Lautaro Bavaro (capt.), 8 Tomás de la Vega, 9 Sebastián Cancelliere, 10 Domingo Miotti, 11 Franco Cuaranta, 12 Tomás Granella, 13 Segundo Tuculet, 14 Germán Schulz, 15 Juan Cruz González

Replacements: 16 Gaspar Baldunciel, 17 Facundo Gigena, 18 Santiago Medrano, 19 Franco Molina, 20 Rodrigo Bruni, 21 Lautaro Bazán Vélez, 22 Juan Cappiello, 23 Emiliano Boffelli

BRAZIL
1 Wilton Rebolo, 2 Yan Rosetti, 3 Caíque Silva, 4 Gabriel Paganini, 5 Diego López, 6 João Luiz da Ros, 7 André Arruda, 8 Nick Smith (capt.), 9 Matheus Cruz, 10 Josh Reeves, 11 De Wet van Niekerk, 12 Moisés Duque, 13 Felipe Sancery, 14 Ariel Rodrigues, 15 Daniel Sancery

Replacements: 16 Daniel Danielewicz, 17 Vitor Ancina, 18 Pedro Bengaló, 19 Lucas Piero, 20 Matheus Daniel, 21 Beukes Cremer, 22 Luan Smanio, 23 Robert Tenório

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Claudio Cativelli (Uruguay).
Assistant Referees: Damián Schneider and Pablo Deluca (Argentina)

Attendance: 3.500

 

[argie]

Fair point, but I thought Brazil's results were credible in November as they are much less experienced internationally than Uruguay and a lot lower ranked. Uruguay losing to Germany was a shocker and as it was first game up I don't see why it would be all that more challenging than playing in the USA (a better side albeit in similar time zone).

Do you think Uruguay have any chance of getting a top 3 finish this year in this championship?

Yes, I think they could beat Canada if they play as at the first half against the Eagles.

I really believe in the improving of their rugby. I don't know what happened in November when they lost with Spain and Germany, but perhaps it has been a misstep against two countries that are also growing a lot in rugby.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Brazil and Chile's performances were far superior to the scorelines. The Brazilian's try was outstanding and they had a series of exciting line breaks throughout the match. A huge issue for both sides is fitness and conditioning as they lose huge amounts of points when they run out of energy. But there is a lot of raw talent there and Brazil in particular are playing a brand of rugby that can only help win over support of the public.

Cancelliere looks like a possible option for the Jaguares squad at scrum half while Landajo is injured?

 

[argie]

Cancelliere looks like a possible option for the Jaguares squad at scrum half while Landajo is injured?

Not yet. Is too young. He needs more experience.
Remember that the current scrumhalves of the Jags, Gonzalo Bertranou and Felipe Ezcurra, were the scrumhalves of Argentina XV last year in the first season of the ARC. Their perfomances served as trampoline to the SR franchise.

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Round 4
Chile vs USA (Full Match)



https://youtu.be/hjbrsSBpzDo

CHILE - 9
Pens â€" F. González Moller 3 (17’, 34’, 48’)
Yellow cards â€" S. Bascuñan (22’), S. Pardakhty (58’)

USA - 57
Tries â€" C. Dolan (24’), T. Lamborn 2 (36’, 76’), D. Tameilau (50’), M. Jensen (52’), Clever (66’), P. Malcolm 2 (78’, 80’)
Cons â€" B. Cima 7 (25’, 37’, 51’, 67’, 77’, 79’, 80’)
Pens â€" B. Cima (5’)
Yellow cards â€" B. Campbell (43’)

TEAMS

CHILE
1 Vittorio Lastra (17 Sebastián Valech 54’), 2 Manuel Gurruchaga (capt.) (16 Rodrigo Moya 67’), 3 José Tomás Munita (18 Ernesto Ugarte 54’), 4 Mario Mayol, 5 Nikola Bursic, 6 Arturo Seeman (20 Eduardo Orpis 26’-35’) (19 Nelson Calderón 62’), 7 Anton Petrowitsch, 8 Manuel Dagnino (Eduardo Orpis 65′), 9 Sergio Bascuñan (21 Beltrán Vergara 62’), 10 Francisco González Moller (22 Jorge Castillo 67’), 11 Tomás Ianiszewski, 12 Simón Pardakhty, 13 Franco Velarde, 14 Matías Contreras (23 Mauricio Urrutia HT), 15 Pablo Verschae

USA
1 Ben Tarr (17 Anthony Purpura 49’), 2 James Hilterbrand (16 Peter Malcolm 51’), 3 Chris Baumann (18 Olive Kilifi 58’), 4 Matt Jensen, 5 Siaosi Mahoni (20 David Tameilau 49’), 6 Todd Clever (19 Hanco Germishuys 67’), 7 Tony Lamborn, 8 Cam Dolan, 9 Shaun Davies (23 Andrew Turner 67’), 10 Ben Cima, 11 Nate Augspurger (capt.), 12 JP Eloff (22 Calvin Whiting 62’), 13 Bryce Campbell, 14 Spike Davis (21 Will Magie 65’), 15 Mike Te’o

MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Ricardo Sant’Anna (CBRu)
Assistants: Frank Méndez (FERUCHI) & Tomás Fernández (FERUCHI)