A Political Thread pt. 2

[Deleted member 90256]

Isn't 5 eyes pretty important to US Intelligence?

I mean I worked on Tempora (or at least believe I did, I know what equipment I was writing SW for was going and was capable of)

Tempora - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I wasn't security cleared BTW the equipment itself wasn't classified.

If this is the last we hear of Ncurd, we all know why.

 

[AlRums]

If this is the last we hear of Ncurd, we all know why.

Who?

 

[Kiwiwomble]

Who?

*****

edit: wow! cant even post his name anymore

 

[ncurd]

If this is the last we hear of Ncurd, we all know why.

Bah everything I know was published by Mr. Snowden and Assange

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[McTallshort]

I'm not sure it matters if the US strikes were a success or not, they flew unchallenged into Iran dropped 6 very distuctive bombs on a possible nuclear facility for no casualties. Now apparently they haven't got many of those specific bombs but in theory they could keep coming back again and again until they did hit something and the Iranian military is at the moment pretty powerless to stop them. Even if the damage wasn't critical it shows Iran it's in a fight with a much bigger dog who for now at least it can't contain.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

So in the white house press room, they didn't deny the leaked report existed, they didn't deny it was real, they didn't deny it says what has been claimed, they just claim to disagree with the conclusion.

So let's see, an internal intelligence document marked as top secret says the bombing didn't achieve what it was supposed to and the Trump administration disagrees!? Based on what? They are arguing with their own intelligence agencies. Twice in the space of a week Trump has contradicted his own intelligence reports.

This is lunacy.

 

[AlRums]

I'm not sure it matters if the US strikes were a success or not, they flew unchallenged into Iran dropped 6 very distuctive bombs on a possible nuclear facility for no casualties. Now apparently they haven't got many of those specific bombs but in theory they could keep coming back again and again until they did hit something and the Iranian military is at the moment pretty powerless to stop them. Even if the damage wasn't critical it shows Iran it's in a fight with a much bigger dog who for now at least it can't contain.

I've read that they have/had about 20 or so bombs.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5355443-trump-decision-bunker-busters-iran/

They dropped 14 and it's the first time under combat conditions.

The one thing I can't work out is, and I'm certainly no expert in this, we have seen nice clean holes where the bombs penetrated, but when I did some research into bunker busters I compared photos of WW2 grand slam bombs and could see a great deal more visible damage, cratering etc

This maybe comparing apples and oranges 80 years apart, but I would expect to see more visible damage today than 80 years ago.

 

[BrokenWing]

Could simply be down to the nuclear facility being designed to minimise any potential explosion escaping?

It appears from a quick read up that grand slams were used against bridges, where they just take out the foundations or sub pens, and apparently against concrete they would explode prematurely so the damage you’re seeing could be down to the bomb not actually doing it’s job properly

 

[McTallshort]

I've read that they have/had about 20 or so bombs.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5355443-trump-decision-bunker-busters-iran/

They dropped 14 and it's the first time under combat conditions.

The one thing I can't work out is, and I'm certainly no expert in this, we have seen nice clean holes where the bombs penetrated, but when I did some research into bunker busters I compared photos of WW2 grand slam bombs and could see a great deal more visible damage, cratering etc

This maybe comparing apples and oranges 80 years apart, but I would expect to see more visible damage today than 80 years ago.

What @BrokenWing said

 

[AlRums]

Why Keir Starmer faces a political storm over welfare reforms

Conversations are continuing at the heart of government on the least worst course of action in the face of a significant backbench rebellion.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[AlRums]

Iran's nuclear programme is damaged but is it destroyed?

Fordo is probably the most spied-on place on the planet - and work to understand what is happening there is set to intensify further.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ddanno]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0z45d641do[/URLURL

How about stop targeting the most vulnerable in society and sentencing them to increased poverty, cruelty, and death you lego ****

 

[Kiwiwomble]

my overwhelming concern with these attacks is to the Iranian mind it just proves they need weapons to "pre-emptively protect themselves", much like Russian invading Ukraine kind of proves Ukraine's desire for support from NATO was well founded

 

[dirty harry]

I can't keep laughing at these posted sources lol this is why you guys are so hysterical, leave these rage inducing channells alone, they aren't being honest with you, and they're lying to you in the worst rage inducing way!

In the last 24 hours they've release 15 videos on YouTube, 100% Trump, the thumbnails, the titles...

60 videos this week, every single one of the is ending Trumps career hahahahaha

Come on...

 

[Welsh Exile]

I can't keep laughing at these posted sources lol this is why you guys are so hysterical, leave these rage inducing channells alone, they aren't being honest with you, and they're lying to you in the worst rage inducing way!

In the last 24 hours they've release 15 videos on YouTube, 100% Trump, the thumbnails, the ***les...

60 videos this week, every single one of the is ending Trumps career hahahahaha

Come on...

What are your favoured sources of information?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

"Everything I don't agree with IS A LIE"

 

[Which Tyler]

"Everything I don't agree with IS A LIE"

TBF, she does say it's a lie, just that she doesn't like the source.
Pure ad hominem, with zero comment on the content

 

[Ddanno]

My fake argument bingo card was full several months ago

 

[McTallshort]

F-35A: What capability does the new jet offer the RAF compared with the B?

The RAF will operate 12 of these cutting-edge fighter aircraft that have the capability to launch tactical nuclear weapons

www.forcesnews.com

Get the need for a separate Nuclear delivery system to the submarine launched missiles but buying both the aircraft and munition from a different country who could or couldn't be friendly when we need to use it is a massive risk.