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A Political Thread pt. 2

I saw a video about that the other day, it's staggering how big their property bubble has become
Isnt there empty towns all over the place?

Growth is one way of looking at the economy but I'm not sure it's the only one. Last year I believe the UK economy didn't grow as much as expected in a certain quarter and I believe one of the reasons for this was because energy prices were lower than expected and people were not spending as much on their bills. Not sure thats a bad thing for a consumer.....
 
Isnt there empty towns all over the place?

Growth is one way of looking at the economy but I'm not sure it's the only one. Last year I believe the UK economy didn't grow as much as expected in a certain quarter and I believe one of the reasons for this was because energy prices were lower than expected and people were not spending as much on their bills. Not sure thats a bad thing for a consumer.....
I'm convinced by the logic that infinite growth simply cannot happen on a planet with finite resources.

On top of that there are other ways to measure progression. How secure are your citizens? Do they have enough to eat, do they have to worry about keeping warm in the winter, are they struggling with health issues?

Are they happy?

Growth at all costs feels increasingly hollow to me
 
I'm convinced by the logic that infinite growth simply cannot happen on a planet with finite resources.

On top of that there are other ways to measure progression. How secure are your citizens? Do they have enough to eat, do they have to worry about keeping warm in the winter, are they struggling with health issues?

Are they happy?

Growth at all costs feels increasingly hollow to me

Also the Tories talk about low taxes as a great achievement but when it comes to public services including the NHS you ultimately get what you pay for.

There is a reason why Danes always rank high on the happy population list despite the fact that they pay higher taxes.

Our Government should be trying to reach some kind of equilibrium where we have acceptable fit for purpose public services at modest income tax rates.
 
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This is the whole dilemma that each Govt is facing including the current one. Trying to please peeps with good enough public services without increasing taxes. It’s a vote loser to increase taxes regardless of of what voters tell pollsters.

Social care levy? But we’re still giving pensioners the triple lock pension. No Govt wants to remove it because they turn out in droves to vote. Young peeps still don’t.
 

They better use it.
Young people are so **** at getting out to vote, it's embarrassing really.

The positive is it gives more of a voice to the 16 and 17 year olds who are more engaged. In general though it feels odd that a government would say people are old enough to vote but not old enough to drink.
 
Young people are so **** at getting out to vote, it's embarrassing really.

The positive is it gives more of a voice to the 16 and 17 year olds who are more engaged. In general though it feels odd that a government would say people are old enough to vote but not old enough to drink.

Honestly I feel 16/17 year olds are far more likely to be politically active than the 18-21 year olds for some reason

I just think there is a touch more seriousness that comes into play a bit. Uni seems to knock out that seriousness

I think the difference between drinking and voting is one doesnt give you health issues
 
Young people are so **** at getting out to vote, it's embarrassing really.

The positive is it gives more of a voice to the 16 and 17 year olds who are more engaged. In general though it feels odd that a government would say people are old enough to vote but not old enough to drink.
Nit picking here but I don’t think the fact that they don’t go out to vote is embarassing, it’s the ones who go on and on and on about political and social issues and don’t go out to vote, that’s embarassing. I’ve got no issues with young people who don’t give a **** but the ones that pretend they do (and that’s all it is pretending) are the cringe worthy ones.
 
Old enough to pay taxes so should get a say in how that money is spent is one argument although most are still in FTE. Flip side why should they have the vote if they’re not considered old / mature enough to stand for the parliament they’re voting for (min 18).

IDK. I guess at that age you don’t really know who you are or what you stand for. Plus there’s also a bit of an inclination for youngsters to go against whatever the status quo is.

Feels a bit of a populist move that wasn’t really necessary, but now they have it, the kids need to use it.

And we wait for the howls of disenfranchised 15 year olds.

18 is by far the most common globally. Maybe Serbia has it right - 18 or 16 if employed.
 

Really good idea tbf, maybe tie it to a minimum amount of service in the NHS - 0% interest for a decade then write it off entirely or something like that


Edit: that'll show me for not finishing the article before commenting, this could be a good way of working it:
In March the Royal College of Nursing proposed that nurses should have 30% of their students debt written off after working in the NHS for three years, 70% after seven years and the remainder after 10 years service.
 

Really good idea tbf, maybe tie it to a minimum amount of service in the NHS - 0% interest for a decade then write it off entirely or something like that
Can see the Royal College of Nursing and Paramedics union might be all over this. Depending how there members obtained there degree.

Edit - Rcn have already asked for there members
 
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