These counter protests weather it be racist ones or not started and flourished under Obamas presidency.
What are you talking about?
Are you 11 years old Sky?
Come on mate...
Anti-racist organisers have a strong 60 years of open activity you can trace in America.
It's called history.
They perform an entirely honourable role in society that is often viciously attacked both physically and verbally by the mainstream media and the far right.
Are you trying to blame Obama for something because he's a democrat, or because he's black?
This course was set under his presidency not Trumps.
Garbage.
Trump has ramped up the right wing on the notion of building a wall and saying all mexicans are rapists. He's the leading racist.
They have been there openly for at least 60 years, do your homework.
Secondly, these anti-racist organisations have an historical tendency to wax and wane in correlation to the growth and subsidence of far right activity and as there is a lot of far right agitation under Trump (they are a core support group to Trump) so they are needed as a check and balance.
You don't have to be left wing to march against racism Sky, you just need to be a decent human being with reasonable moral values.
These leftist groups are just as bad as the Nazi ones you lot love to decry.
Now this sentence makes you look like a repugnant far right racist.
Nobody 'loves' to decry the KKK. They are a disgusting organisation that not only gives a safe haven to racists but they promote racism, they promote homophobia, they promote xenophobia and sexism. There is nothing to 'love' about rallying against these kind of groups, it is something that decent people feel is 'necessary' because their ideology is anathema to a fair, just, peaceful and harmonious society.
I'm really disappointed in your line of argument Sky.
You are coming across like a KKK sympathiser.
I will stand by the fact that these idiots on both sides have the right to protest until the day I die.
Of course they have a right to protest the removal of a statue.
Of course...
However, they can do that without waving swastikas in the street and chanting Nazi slogans.
That has nothing at all to do with General Lee.
They can do it without carrying guns, wearing body armour and killing and maiming innocent people by driving a car into them in a cowardly fashion.
They are not merely protesting Sky, they are agitating, openly flexing their political muscles and looking to recruit for their repugnant ideology in a show of strength and unity.
Of course that is going to draw widespread condemnation.
Naturally the reasonable among us are going to see it as a direct attack on our basic human rights.
My Dad fought against the pure evil of the fascism espoused and enshrined by the Nazi's, to make this world a safer and better place for us and our children.
Regular folk know that and will stand up to rail against those feeble minded ignorants who espouse the supposed virtues of the 'white ' people over every other kind of ethnicity.
It is utterly void of reason and compassion and morally repugnant.
That "innocent" woman that's dead was the one that ran up behind the car laying into it with a two by four or something she didnt just pick that up after the car ran over people (she certainly didnt deserve to die but to act like she's an innocent lamb is just ridiculous).
She's dead.
She can no longer speak for herself anymore.
If you drive a car into human beings with the intention of murdering them then you get what is coming to you.
She was standing up against a killer, a racist killer, and she was run down in the process.
She was courageous.
She's a hero.
If you can't see that then you are not on the same page as the rest of us.
People are arming themselves on both sides because of precedents set at likes of Berkley and co by leftist retards that know if they spin the narrative right you muppets are going to lap it up. I have obviously been following whats going on over there for alot longer than you and you are completely missing (or are willfully ignorant) to my points here.
Wilful ignorance.
Hmmmm.... the irony is golden.
The far right have historically had a prediliction toward ramping up the violent aspect and it stems from their arguments being false, short sighted and designed to keep their membership fettered in ignorance rather than challenge the doctrine.
They believe in nonsense like 'Might is Right'.
Oh and I suppose some of your best friends are black... and some of your close friends are homosexual, and some of your best acquaintances are Mexicans or ethnic minorities too?
Yada yada yada...
...and obviously my kids are mixed so dont even bother coming at me with the racism stuff I actually live it unlike you virtue signalling retards.
Are you hopeful of becoming the tweetmeister for @POTUS ? ;-)
Good God man...
There is a tangible vehemence in your material that betrays a sympathetic stance for the far right.
Can you not see it when you go back and look at what you have written.?
Honestly you lot have got no argument here other than to try and paint ME as a racist as well.
No mate.
You're doing a bang up job on that count all on your own.
Hoisted by your own petard.
Its actually hilarious and rather amusing watching you all squirm about.
Thats interesting because I'm finding it mildly humourous that you come across sounding like your hero, DT, when you get defensive because your line of discussion becomes aggressive and you resort to insults so you stray into areas that portray you as appearing openly supportive of racists and fascism like those gun toting swastika waving champions of ignorance in Charlottesville.
Your words Sky, not ours.
You people are in a leftist bubble and simply cant admit that there are leftists in your midst are just as bad...
As bad as what?
Thats a shame for the policemen and their families who suffered...tell me, when you tally up how many murders have occurred of innocent black people at the hands of institutionally racist cops, I imagine there's a reason you left that number out of your discussion... you don't like facts nearly as much as you say you do Sky. ;-)
Methinks thou dost protest too much !!
...and there have been like 30 terror attacks this year alone by groups that leftist like you lot appear to support.
Yes we are all card carrying members of the British Communist Party, regularly reading subversive material at clandestine weekly discussion groups where we circulate immaculate and revered original limited editions of the Communist Manifesto et al.
Seriously fella...
Do me a favour Sky, you are coming across like a paranoid survivalist. Check shirt done up to the top button, jeans rolled up at the bottom above sneakers or combat boots and your kids dressed exactly the same.
Bernie bro who tried to kill half of the Republican senators at a friendly baseball match.
Huh?
What?
English mate. Your colonial masters gave you a language, make an effort to use it properly.
If any group is full of murderers its the anarchists and facists tied to the left.
As your argument continues so it begins to unravel and fall apart descending into a window through which we can all see clearly where your mindset is framed.
We don't have to have the perspicacity of Freud to see where you are coming from...
You have been successfully brainwashed, at least in part, to the constant right wing fake news spewed out from Murdoch owned outlets like Fox news.
You are a far right sympathiser Sky.
That much is obvious.
Next we'll have to bulldose the pyramids because they are icons of slavery and oppression.
Who is 'we'?
Has your paranoia developed into schizophrenia?
Like I said, you have lost the plot.
Your arguments are peppered with insults, slurs and a wide range of broad generalisations in the place of factual material.
You may not be a far right sympathiser but your material is showing a compelling amount of sympathetic projection toward the KKK and their ilk.
You should think about that next time you write a reply.
It's extremely likely that rugby folk are not going to want to debate with you on any topics when you show a clear disposition toward fascists and racists who openly aggressively march in the street and look to recruit the feeble minded and vulnerable to their sick, repugnant ideology.
The left may well have issues but they are not, historically, or in the present, racist or fascist.
If I'm going to have sympathies I would rather lean that way than toward any doctrine that promotes racism, segregation, apartheid and oppression of ethnic minorities and women.
In the bible, and other good books... that ideology and doctrine is known as evil.
