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Tallshort said:
What is the deal with anti semiticism and the Labour Party? Is it down to Israel or The Daily Mail?
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Down to the Two State Solution with Israel / Palestine situation potentially, but I think it has something to do with individuals wanting to demonise Corbyn and Labour due to their progress against the Conservatives.

The Facebook post in question was done in 2012 (?) so someone must have done a good bit of digging to find it.

In regards to any issues highlighted between the Labour Party and the Jewish community, I think it is just more down to the left-wing differences between the Labour Party and the big banking families / corporations (like the Rothchilds) / capitalism who are of Jewish descent.

It was only a few weeks ago that May was being bashed on all sides for her leadership on Brexit etc, and now with the Russia poisoning (apparent) she is now being referred to as strong and Corbyn is not being considered as weak.

For me Corbyn has still the ability to be a great PM. He has been on the right side of history for civil rights and international wars throughout his political career .
 
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Gavin said:
Down to the Two State Solution with Israel / Palestine situation potentially, but I think it has something to do with individuals wanting to demonise Corbyn and Labour due to their progress against the Conservatives.

The Facebook post in question was done in 2012 (?) so someone must have done a good bit of digging to find it.

In regards to any issues highlighted between the Labour Party and the Jewish community, I think it is just more down to the left-wing differences between the Labour Party and the big banking families / corporations (like the Rothchilds) / capitalism who are of Jewish descent.

It was only a few weeks ago that May was being bashed on all sides for her leadership on Brexit etc, and now with the Russia poisoning (apparent) she is now being referred to as strong and Corbyn is not being considered as weak.

For me Corbyn has still the ability to be a great PM. He has been on the right side of history for civil rights and international wars throughout his political career .
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Although I disagree with your last sentence (no surprise) it does feel like a witch hunt but then organisations like Momentum do have a sinister side that perhaps plays into hands of the right wing media
 
Tallshort said:
What is the deal with anti semiticism and the Labour Party? Is it down to Israel or The Daily Mail?
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No idea, not being a Labour supporter or member of the party. I think it was Ncurd in an earlier post who put it more succinctly why Corbyn won't get rid of large sections who are anti-Semitic because it would rid him large swathes of his support base.

But not being a big fan of Corbyn I just think the last few weeks have shown again why he is unfit to be PM. His weak response to Salisbury and now the Anti-Semitism in his own party has shown he does not lead from the front. His instincts are to argue left wing causes (yes of course he is a socialist) but still his weakness on matters of National Security are glaring IMO.

Not saying May is doing a great deal better as leader, but that is why she is leading a minority Government. But she has at least done most to rally international support against Russia. And let's face it we know they were involved. If Corbyn becomes PM would he be so swift to act? Not so sure. Even McDonnell's words were stronger than his in relation to Russia when recognised that National Security on our doorstep was at stake.
 
I think Corbyn won't be a good PM because he is too much of an idealist, he thinks he can sit down and play politics on the world stage and everyone will follow the rules and play nice. He doesn't strike me as someone who really puts much thought into the more dirty side of politics and whilst I would gladly like to see politics dragged out of the muck, I think to do that you need to have a pretty good idea of how it operates in the muck and why it is there in the first place. Corbyn comes across as naive. Having said that so does May, so it wouldn't really make much difference in that regard, but I do feel she is at least prepared to recognise that there are people out there who just don't like us and would happily try to screw us over.

Ultimately I think this is the least inspirational set of politicians in the West I've experienced in my short life. Trump is a complete train wreck, May is a spineless jellyfish and Corbyn is that nice old uncle in the brown coat with a pipe and rocking chair telling everyone to play nice. Of the other parties, I don't even know who the UKIP leader is, it's too late for Cable with the Lib Dems as they already destroyed themselves, Greens will never get anywhere and the Monster Raving Loony party aren't going to get in.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...-of-growing-poverty-crisis-in-british-schools

To be fair having criticised Corbyn on being weak on National Security, child poverty caused by the cut back in benefits for the poorest members of society, where it is leading to children not eating well enough is right on. And where this story Government should reverse cuts and cannot be on any level justified. It's why Tories shouldn't have a majority and held to account on issues like this.
 
The_Blindside said:
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...-of-growing-poverty-crisis-in-british-schools

To be fair having criticised Corbyn on being weak on National Security, child poverty caused by the cut back in benefits for the poorest members of society, where it is leading to children not eating well enough is not right. And where this tory Government should reverse cuts and the effects of them like this cannot be on any level justified. It's why Tories shouldn't have a majority and held to account on issues like this.
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Just correcting above because no edit button to correct my original post.
 
Big Bojo misleading the public?
 
Gavin said:
Big Bojo misleading the public?
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Not misleading the public. He is a Buffoon who lacks the precision needed for high office. It's scientific evidence plus intelligence that has led to the conclusion that it is highly likely to be Russia. Let's not forget not only Litvinenko, but also the former Ukrainian President who was poisoned (back in 2004). They have form and the motive:



Russia are jumping on Bo Jo's comments because they have been taken aback by the speed by which UK has identified the Novichok agent and other countries backing them IMO.
 
Tallshort said:
Yes because only a good gun with a gun can stop a bad gun with a gun
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There's not such thing as a bad gun, just bad gun-owners, who can't be all bad as they are, after all, gun owners
 
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