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Duane Vermeulen and Julian Savea maybe?
Who do you think is the best forward and back.
Who do you think is the best forward and back.
Lel, none of those players who you've pulled from your arse have been the key player in the in form international side that's unbeaten in 10 games and are looking good to increase that streak. Sexton has been the best 10 in rugby for 12 months now.Sexton ?? - I think some of you northerners need to watch super rugby there may be 16 sides with better number 10's
Sexton ?? - I think some of you northerners need to watch super rugby there may be 16 sides with better number 10's
Lel, none of those players who you've pulled from your arse have been the key player in the in form international side that's unbeaten in 10 games and are looking good to increase that streak. Sexton has been the best 10 in rugby for 12 months now.
Ed Fairhurst
Based on never playing the All Blacks, certainly.
I agree Sexton is remarkably overrated (just in IMHO - I know I'll take heat for it). Best 10 in NH maybe, best in the world? I'd take Cruden, Carter, Pollard and maybe Barett and Foley. I think George Ford may well be better - barring the fact Lancaster is a poor coach and England's backline is a revolving door. Schmidt can certainly get a backline moving well - which is why Sexton has always looked good with him. Is he the best performing 10 in the Top 14? No. Just being honest I believe there are 10s that offer a lot more, never mind Sexton being the best player in the world (which is only a view that seems to exist during this month, just as Halfpenny was the best player in the world of Febuary/March 2013 and Mike Brown was close there 2014...).
Is this the same Pollard and Foley who he taught a lesson to a few months ago? The same Ford who looked remarkably better after Sexton left the field of play last weekend? The same Carter who hasn't played for 12 months? The same Barrett who performs better as a winger in international rugby? Cruden has an argument but he did play in an All Blacks side who went unbeaten in a year against an Ireland side who'd beaten one top tier side in 2013 and look no better than Sexton did. He also got a world player of the year nomination in a season which did include said All Blacks game but we can just brush over that...
The best performing 10 in the top 14 would be hard to achieve considering he has played one game since November due to injury but considering he was the best 10 in European club rugby from 2011 to 2013 I think that argument is invalid.
And now to your final ignorant statement, what doesn't Sexton offer? He ran the best backline in club rugby for three years, has 8 international tries in 49 tests, is the main cog in the most efficient kicking side in world rugby right now and has missed one place kick, his biggest weakness up to this point in his career, in the 6 nations. Sexton hasn't had a bad game in international rugby, which is the where he should be judged according to countless posts from two to three years ago, in 15 months and is the main reason that Ireland are currently on the biggest winning streak of any international side as we speak, a streak which includes every top tier nation apart from New Zealand and Wales, and Scotland if we're being nice.
Okay, so Sexton is overrated because he plays in a well coached backline, but Cruden, Carter, Pollard and Barret aren't? Despite the fact they all are usually behind dominant packs with class across the backline. Really? Also I won't even give rating Foley above Sexton the time of day. As cmac said. What exactly doesn't he offer? Kicking, defence, game management, vision and dogedness, he has it all. Best in the world? I'm not sure. He's definately the best performing 10 over the past few months, although his form could easily dip.Based on never playing the All Blacks, certainly.
I agree Sexton is remarkably overrated (just in IMHO - I know I'll take heat for it). Best 10 in NH maybe, best in the world? I'd take Cruden, Carter, Pollard and maybe Barett and Foley. I think George Ford may well be better - barring the fact Lancaster is a poor coach and England's backline is a revolving door. Schmidt can certainly get a backline moving well - which is why Sexton has always looked good with him. Is he the best performing 10 in the Top 14? No. Just being honest I believe there are 10s that offer a lot more, never mind Sexton being the best player in the world (which is only a view that seems to exist during this month, just as Halfpenny was the best player in the world of Febuary/March 2013 and Mike Brown was close there 2014...).
Good response mate... So apart from destroying the best 10 SA snd AUS has to offer these countries have hidden gems playing at 10 that they'd rather not risk in international matches? Good man ... Back to drawing board for you mate... Or world of Warcraft... Which is more likely, let's be honestSexton ?? - I think some of you northerners need to watch super rugby there may be 16 sides with better number 10's
Is this the same Pollard and Foley who he taught a lesson to a few months ago? The same Ford who looked remarkably better after Sexton left the field of play last weekend? The same Carter who hasn't played for 12 months? The same Barrett who performs better as a winger in international rugby? Cruden has an argument but he did play in an All Blacks side who went unbeaten in a year against an Ireland side who'd beaten one top tier side in 2013 and look no better than Sexton did. He also got a world player of the year nomination in a season which did include said All Blacks game but we can just brush over that...
The best performing 10 in the top 14 would be hard to achieve considering he has played one game since November due to injury but considering he was the best 10 in European club rugby from 2011 to 2013 I think that argument is invalid.
And now to your final ignorant statement, what doesn't Sexton offer? He ran the best backline in club rugby for three years, has 8 international tries in 49 tests, is the main cog in the most efficient kicking side in world rugby right now and has missed one place kick, his biggest weakness up to this point in his career, in the 6 nations. Sexton hasn't had a bad game in international rugby, which is the where he should be judged according to countless posts from two to three years ago, in 15 months and is the main reason that Ireland are currently on the biggest winning streak of any international side as we speak, a streak which includes every top tier nation apart from New Zealand and Wales, and Scotland if we're being nice.
Rekt
Hehe, I'm no fanboy, I was a huge critic of Sexton as recently as last year's 6nations to the point where my criticisms were probably a bit unfair.First of all fan boy - ignorant and having a different opinion are two separate things.
You use the fact that Ireland won against South Africa and Australia as an example why Sexton is a better player? Okay, then no Irish player has ever been as good as an All Black. You're other retarded points - Carter has played in 12 months, he's played as recently as this month and for the All Blacks on the EOYT. Barrett has never been used on the wing for the Hurricanes or All Blacks. Saying Cruden didn't look better than Sexton did in 2013 really just proves you dither don't watch other 10s or have a blind hard on for Sexton. Again you claim Ireland are the best kicking side in the world? What is this based on? Their current performance in the 6 Nations? Ireland are on their winning streak because they have a well drilled forward pack that have dominated other 6 Nations teams, and their streak is most likely down to not paying the All Blacks in the last 12 months...Throw in Madigan and you still win.
I'm not even saying Sexton is a bad player - there are just plenty of other fly halves I'd prefer over him.