The Ukraine War thread

[Bada-Bing!]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68861011?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=662403ff9f0e6101c57b227a%26Ukraine%20bill%20passed%20easily%20after%20bi-partisan%20deal%262024-04-20T18%3A09%3A21.484Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:e171d29d-1df3-4650-a98e-eeb2114f4ddd&pinned_post_asset_id=662403ff9f0e6101c57b227a&pinned_post_type=share

About time.

 

[McTallshort]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68861011?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=662403ff9f0e6101c57b227a%26Ukraine%20bill%20passed%20easily%20after%20bi-partisan%20deal%262024-04-20T18%3A09%3A21.484Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:e171d29d-1df3-4650-a98e-eeb2114f4ddd&pinned_post_asset_id=662403ff9f0e6101c57b227a&pinned_post_type=share

About time.

Let's just hope Trump doesn't get in and the aid stops.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Let's just hope Trump doesn't get in and the aid stops.

He's too busy falling asleep and farting whilst on trial atm.

 

[Which Tyler]

Let's just hope Trump doesn't get in and the aid stops.

A] Absolutely, and not just for Ukraine
B] From what I'm reading around the webs, Ukraine "should" be "okay" even if this is the last one from the US. It's enough to plug the current shortfall, European production is ramping up (expected to be outproducing Russia by the end of this year), as is European collecting of other peoples' stock (about a year's worth of artillery ammunition (, and counting), with South Korea seriously considering serious contributions (presumably already contributing, but through the back door, or by supplying new stuff to other nations, who can send their old stock to Czechslovakia)

 

[McTallshort]

A] Absolutely, and not just for Ukraine
B] From what I'm reading around the webs, Ukraine "should" be "okay" even if this is the last one from the US. It's enough to plug the current shortfall, European production is ramping up (expected to be outproducing Russia by the end of this year), as is European collecting of other peoples' stock (about a year's worth of artillery ammunition (, and counting), with South Korea seriously considering serious contributions (presumably already contributing, but through the back door, or by supplying new stuff to other nations, who can send their old stock to Czechslovakia)

Yes I have been really pleased with the Czech initiative to raise the money to buy stocks on the world market. Also really pleased that a pro-Putin leader of Slovakia decided not to join that initiative only for the Slovakian population to do a crowd fund that surpassed the amount the government was going to give in the first place.

 

[Saintjay]

Geez did Majorie Taylor Green make herself look even more of a tw@t yesterday over funding.

 

[McTallshort]

Geez did Majorie Taylor Green make herself look even more of a tw@t yesterday over funding.

Not sure that's possible.

 

[Al Bangor]

Let's just hope Trump doesn't get in and the aid stops.

Hopefully the bloated orange clown will be in jail. New York court has chosen the twelve jurors and six alternates. Trial (opening statements) to begin next week.

I think most Americans still support Ukraine. I sure do!

 

[Saintjay]

Not good. Wonder if Biden will make good on "severe consequences".

Russia using chemical choking agents in Ukraine, US says

The state department says Moscow has used a World War One-era weapon to "dislodge" Ukrainian troops.

www.google.com

 

[McTallshort]

Not good. Wonder if Biden will make good on "severe consequences".

Russia using chemical choking agents in Ukraine, US says

The state department says Moscow has used a World War One-era weapon to "dislodge" Ukrainian troops.

www.google.com

Just needs to keep the military aid coming. It's no suprise the Russians are using CS gas. Wouldn't be shocked if the Ukrainians have as well.

 

[Saintjay]

Just needs to keep the military aid coming. It's no suprise the Russians are using CS gas. Wouldn't be shocked if the Ukrainians have as well.

It's Chloropicrin which i didn't think is in CS and is legally outlawed. My CBRN knowledge is not up to date tbh so not 100%.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Russian plot to kill Zelensky foiled, Kyiv says

Two Ukrainian security officials are held over a Russian plot to assassinate the president, Ukraine says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Ukraine's defence lines stretched as Russian troops advance

The BBC's Jonathan Beale joins Ukrainian forces in Kharkiv as they try to shore up a weakened frontline.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Ukraine's defence lines stretched as Russian troops advance

The BBC's Jonathan Beale joins Ukrainian forces in Kharkiv as they try to shore up a weakened frontline.

www.bbc.co.uk

If Europe had had properly funded and ready armies then we wouldn't have had to rely on the US sorting out their petty internal squabbles to help Ukraine. The USA has proven to be an unreliable partner and Europe needs to cut off their reliance on the USA for security among other things.

 

[Which Tyler]

If Europe had had properly funded and ready armies then we wouldn't have had to rely on the US sorting out their petty internal squabbles to help Ukraine. The USA has proven to be an unreliable partner and Europe needs to cut off their reliance on the USA for security among other things.

Hopefully this is the kick up the arse needed to realise that the US actually is unreliable, rather than suspecting it, but them always coming through.