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Dmx#1

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Which one is currently winning and which one do you think is better? I just wanna know because im a bit behind and this could be big factor on who wins the console war out of 360 and PS3.
 
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Brodizzle

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Give Blu Ray another 5 years or so, because the technology is hugely above that of the nearest competitor your average retailer will charge huge prices for it, once around 5 years go by and they can't justify the huge costs anymore then prices will drop and it will be viable. PS3 will be bought by those who look at the label and simply hate Microsoft as being the evil empire etc. (I used to be one of them) but the 360 at the moment is the better console games wise and unless in the next year something amazing happens it will win the war undoubtedly...so Sony either buys out FIFA exclusively to make up sales or drop the prices dramatically...which they won't do as I think the consoles themselves are quite expensive to make compared to competitors....
 
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melon

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Blu-Ray burners in Australia retail for between AU$1000 and AU$1400 (most around the middle mark), but can find them on eBay for between AU$850 and AU$1100 :(

The single layers hold 25gb and the dualies 50gb!!!

I'd give it about 10 years to become industry standard, but prices should be low enough for most people to have one by the time 2012 comes around.

As soon as they hit $250, I'm getting one!
 
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Dmx#1

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Is it true that HD-DVDs are cheaper and that Sony has had trouble making dual layer Blu ray discs?
 
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C A Iversen

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Is it true that HD-DVDs are cheaper and that Sony has had trouble making dual layer Blu ray discs? [/b]

Yes, HD-DVD's players and discs are marginally cheaper, right at the moment, this will change. No Sony does not have any trouble producing dual layer Blu Ray discs.

Standard single sided capacity: HD-DVD: 15GB - BLU RAY: 25GB
Double Sided: HD-DVD: 30GB - BLU RAY: 50GB
Double Sided Dual Layer: HD-DVD: 60GB - BLU RAY: 100GB

All this means that Blu Ray discs can be encoded at a much higher bit-rate which in turn will make for a better picture on 1080p HD screens or more overall content.

For example: One Blu Ray double-sided dual layer disc could hold the entire Lord Of The Rings Trilogy encoded a better bit-rate than DVD. A Hd-Dvd of the same sides/layers could hold it at a much worse bit-rate than DVD.

Overall the major difference is storage.

Also, Blu Ray discs are not likely to be anymore expensive than a HD-DVD disc for much longer at all. Also, recently America's biggest video rental group, Blockbuster announced that as far as the format war is concerned it was exclusively Blu Ray from now on. Blu Ray has the support of about 65% of Hollywood Studios.

HD-DVD is however to be heavily utilised by the porn industry as Sony will give them no help in producing Blu Ray discs. They are not for porn, although will not stop them figuring out how to do it themselves. Many industry analysts thought this may be a potential early victory for HD-DVD, although I ask: How Hi-Def and close to real life does this stuff have to look? Only very lonely people are going to want to feel like they are really in the room with the porn stars.

In short it will be an interesting format war, although I don't think we'll have to wait 5 years for a winner. I reckon 3.
 
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melon

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When will people wake up and realise that 5 1/4" disks are the way of the future?! That's right people! You heard it here first!
 
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Bullitt

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Aren't you funny, taking the **** out of old technology; I actually had to use those in school.


Grandad over here is off for a nap now I've made myseld feel 20 years older then I really am...
 
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gjohn85

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<div class='quotemain'> Is it true that HD-DVDs are cheaper and that Sony has had trouble making dual layer Blu ray discs? [/b]

Yes, HD-DVD's players and discs are marginally cheaper, right at the moment, this will change. No Sony does not have any trouble producing dual layer Blu Ray discs.

Standard single sided capacity: HD-DVD: 15GB - BLU RAY: 25GB
Double Sided: HD-DVD: 30GB - BLU RAY: 50GB
Double Sided Dual Layer: HD-DVD: 60GB - BLU RAY: 100GB

All this means that Blu Ray discs can be encoded at a much higher bit-rate which in turn will make for a better picture on 1080p HD screens or more overall content.

For example: One Blu Ray double-sided dual layer disc could hold the entire Lord Of The Rings Trilogy encoded a better bit-rate than DVD. A Hd-Dvd of the same sides/layers could hold it at a much worse bit-rate than DVD.

Overall the major difference is storage.

Also, Blu Ray discs are not likely to be anymore expensive than a HD-DVD disc for much longer at all. Also, recently America's biggest video rental group, Blockbuster announced that as far as the format war is concerned it was exclusively Blu Ray from now on. Blu Ray has the support of about 65% of Hollywood Studios.

HD-DVD is however to be heavily utilised by the porn industry as Sony will give them no help in producing Blu Ray discs. They are not for porn, although will not stop them figuring out how to do it themselves. Many industry analysts thought this may be a potential early victory for HD-DVD, although I ask: How Hi-Def and close to real life does this stuff have to look? Only very lonely people are going to want to feel like they are really in the room with the porn stars.

In short it will be an interesting format war, although I don't think we'll have to wait 5 years for a winner. I reckon 3.
[/b][/quote] So to sum up the HD-DVD & Blu Ray wars, HD-DVD is for Porn & Blu Ray is for everything else. I know what I'm rooting for........
 
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Dmx#1

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<div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotemain'> Is it true that HD-DVDs are cheaper and that Sony has had trouble making dual layer Blu ray discs? [/b]

Yes, HD-DVD's players and discs are marginally cheaper, right at the moment, this will change. No Sony does not have any trouble producing dual layer Blu Ray discs.

Standard single sided capacity: HD-DVD: 15GB - BLU RAY: 25GB
Double Sided: HD-DVD: 30GB - BLU RAY: 50GB
Double Sided Dual Layer: HD-DVD: 60GB - BLU RAY: 100GB

All this means that Blu Ray discs can be encoded at a much higher bit-rate which in turn will make for a better picture on 1080p HD screens or more overall content.

For example: One Blu Ray double-sided dual layer disc could hold the entire Lord Of The Rings Trilogy encoded a better bit-rate than DVD. A Hd-Dvd of the same sides/layers could hold it at a much worse bit-rate than DVD.

Overall the major difference is storage.

Also, Blu Ray discs are not likely to be anymore expensive than a HD-DVD disc for much longer at all. Also, recently America's biggest video rental group, Blockbuster announced that as far as the format war is concerned it was exclusively Blu Ray from now on. Blu Ray has the support of about 65% of Hollywood Studios.

HD-DVD is however to be heavily utilised by the porn industry as Sony will give them no help in producing Blu Ray discs. They are not for porn, although will not stop them figuring out how to do it themselves. Many industry analysts thought this may be a potential early victory for HD-DVD, although I ask: How Hi-Def and close to real life does this stuff have to look? Only very lonely people are going to want to feel like they are really in the room with the porn stars.

In short it will be an interesting format war, although I don't think we'll have to wait 5 years for a winner. I reckon 3.
[/b][/quote] So to sum up the HD-DVD & Blu Ray wars, HD-DVD is for Porn & Blu Ray is for everything else. I know what I'm rooting for........ [/b][/quote]

Damn. So that means im gonna have to buy something that plays both :D are one of the formats more reliable than the other? Are both sides so stubborn and greedy that they refuse to agree to a dual format? Like HD-Ray or Blue DVD? Do either formats play normal dvd? Like one side DVD one side HD DVD?
 
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esoj

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I am not totally sure but I think there are combination players/drives out there that will play both hd-dvd and blu-ray.
 
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rugbyindianmaniac

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Yeh, Sony were making losses on their ps3 sales in an attempt to get bluray player into many households, bluray has better technology but the name I think puts technophobes off as it sounds like a gimmick. HD-DVD however is a great name as its to the point and also many fools think they can be played on normal dvd players
 
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yyyc186

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well if price matter hd-dvd is going to win with the new cheaper xbox 360 drive. personally i think they will both take ages to win given the prices of the cheapest players and heck my dvd player looks fine on my hdtv...
 
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Dmx#1

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So is there definantly not going to be a dual format? Do you think that both sides will negotiate and create a entrely new format that incorperates the good things of both formats. Then screw over all the HD-DVD and Blu Ray supporters? :lol:
 
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O'Rothlain

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So is there definantly not going to be a dual format? Do you think that both sides will negotiate and create a entrely new format that incorperates the good things of both formats. Then screw over all the HD-DVD and Blu Ray supporters? :lol:
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Dude...READ. There will be Dual Players.
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detai...px?NewsId=16562
http://digital-lifestyles.info/2005/09/07/...dblu-ray-player

Read those...
It's definitely in the plans to build machines that play both formats. It's the only logical solution.
From the sound of this discusion it seems Blue Ray is superior...just like the beta max...but will it reign supreme? Time will only tell................
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9750763-7.html?tag=bl
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Dmx#1

Guest
<div class='quotemain'> So is there definantly not going to be a dual format? Do you think that both sides will negotiate and create a entrely new format that incorperates the good things of both formats. Then screw over all the HD-DVD and Blu Ray supporters? :lol:
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Dude...READ. There will be Dual Players.
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detai...px?NewsId=16562
http://digital-lifestyles.info/2005/09/07/...dblu-ray-player

Read those...
It's definitely in the plans to build machines that play both formats. It's the only logical solution.
From the sound of this discusion it seems Blue Ray is superior...just like the beta max...but will it reign supreme? Time will only tell................
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9750763-7.html?tag=bl
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I didnt mean dual players i meant a new format. I got the answer from the article.

It would make good sense if everyone agreed to produce just one type of blue-laser player, whether Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, or a universal unit. But at this late date, it would take some sort of miracle for that to happen. [/b]
 
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dbdynsty25

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There are already dual format players...and in fact, they are currently working on the dual format combo discs as well. That is what really needs to happen if both are to survive. Nothing will really win anyway. People aren't ready for HD videos quite yet. Hell, HDTVs are finally becoming mainstream...no one is going to spend 3-6 hundred for HD/BR and then replace all of their standard DVDs with their HD versions. Just not gonna happen yet.
 

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