Champions Cup 24/25 - Saturday, 24 May

[BrokenWing]

Henry Pollock: Bordeaux players ‘out of order’ in post-match Champions Cup fracas - Dowson

Northampton director of rugby Phil Dowson accuses Bordeaux’s players of being “out of order” after Henry Pollock appeared to be grabbed around the neck after the final whistle of Saints’ Champions Cup final defeat.

www.bbc.co.uk

Apparently started between Jalibert and Dingwall

Northampton boss fumes over ‘out of order’ Pollock incident in Champions Cup final

Northampton felt that their young back row was targeted late on in their defeat to Bordeaux-Begles

www.independent.co.uk

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Ok so this is some context before.
It doesn't to me sound like anything major or unique.

Guessing Pollock decided to approach Poirot and then that happened with the throat

 

[General Melchett]

It's only getting air time because it's Pollock and he's been trending a bit lately. A nothing incident and absolute non story.

 

[LIONSxv]

He was trying to keep game flowing, but then THE TMO got involved correctly, but was too lenient on the 'unsporting behaviours' such as deliberately knock ons, and was inconsistent with the high tackles.
The Bordeaux one was a no arms shoulder directly to the head, whereas the Northampton one was a chest tackle, where the head moved forward on impact to make contact.

If the 2nd one was yellow, (correct), then the first one was red.

He also got overturned with tackling a player in the air and obvious high tackles
The scrum penalty he gave Bordeaux in the second half was also a joke. He pinged Iyogen for dropping his bind, that generally happens when their tight head has collapsed belly first. I think they scored just after that one

 

[higgik]

He also got overturned with tackling a player in the air and obvious high tackles
The scrum penalty he gave Bordeaux in the second half was also a joke. He pinged Iyogen for dropping his bind, that generally happens when their tight head has collapsed belly first. I think they scored just after that one

I thought same, he won battle and the TH moved back letting him go.

 

[Becca]

Oh dear. That's going into the range of obsessive territory. Sad or creepy ?!

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Saints fans - "Oh the game needs more personality let the boy be cocky"
Also Saints fans - "Oh dear. That's going into the range of obsessive territory. Sad or creepy ?!"

I'm sorry but you can't just give it and then when it comes to eating throw the spoon away

 

[Becca]

Saints fans - "Oh the game needs more personality let the boy be cocky"
Also Saints fans - "Oh dear. That's going into the range of obsessive territory. Sad or creepy ?!"

I'm sorry but you can't just give it and then when it comes to eating throw the spoon away

I'm sorry but letting someone get that far under your skin is a worry.
You're supposed to be celebrating not obsessing.
I have a qualification in Sports Psych, that behaviour isn't acceptable to me.
And that's just my opinion.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

What does Sports Psych have to do with it?
Atheltes are among the most petty people in the world.

One of the greatest and most famous sportsman of all time Michael Jordan was the pettiest person I have ever seen. I imagine a lot of athletes drive stems from being petty and wanting to prove someone wrong

It clearly didn't affect them enough to lose the game. Isn't this what people wanted in the game? More personality and edge in a game

 

[ChicagoKid]

What does Sports Psych have to do with it?
Atheltes are among the most petty people in the world.

One of the greatest and most famous sportsman of all time Michael Jordan was the pettiest person I have ever seen. I imagine a lot of athletes drive stems from being petty and wanting to prove someone wrong

It clearly didn't affect them enough to lose the game. Isn't this what people wanted in the game? More personality and edge in a game

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Rugby union hates personalities. It only wants the good and never the bad.

Well, people are multi-dimensional and people's greatest strengths are often their downfall. But that humanity is what makes great storytelling.

 

[Saintjay]

Saints fans - "Oh the game needs more personality let the boy be cocky"
Also Saints fans - "Oh dear. That's going into the range of obsessive territory. Sad or creepy ?!"

I'm sorry but you can't just give it and then when it comes to eating throw the spoon away

As a Saint fan really not bothered. If people want to take the mick crack on. Tigs fans using as an excuse for a dig at Saints isn't exactly a shock.

 

[Sterkol]

LBB and Jalibert celebrating.

Nothing bad about it imo.

Pollock is an awesome young player, future will be bright for England

 

[LIONSxv]

What does Sports Psych have to do with it?
Atheltes are among the most petty people in the world.

One of the greatest and most famous sportsman of all time Michael Jordan was the pettiest person I have ever seen. I imagine a lot of athletes drive stems from being petty and wanting to prove someone wrong

It clearly didn't affect them enough to lose the game. Isn't this what people wanted in the game? More personality and edge in a game

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I find that picture really sad tbh. It almost feels personal to them. I could understand if he had celebrated like that against them or France...it's weird imo
Jailbert himself is a proper shithouse. In fact France have plenty ATM...

 

[McTallshort]

LBB and Jalibert celebrating.

Nothing bad about it imo.

Pollock is an awesome young player, future will be bright for England

Living rent free in their heads

 

[ChicagoKid]

I find that picture really sad tbh. It almost feels personal to them. I could understand if he had celebrated like that against them or France...it's weird imo
Jailbert himself is a proper shithouse. In fact France have plenty ATM...

Of course it's personal. Have you seen all the various sports documentaries on the best of the best?

Tom Brady 25 years later talks about how Michigan and the NFL disrespected him. Michael Jordan used to make up stories to motivate himself.

It's not business, it's all personal. It's not a sport, it's combat. This is how the greatest athletes get themselves in the right mindset to win.

 

[LIONSxv]

Of course it's personal. Have you seen all the various sports documentaries on the best of the best?

Tom Brady 25 years later talks about how Michigan and the NFL disrespected him. Michael Jordan used to make up stories to motivate himself.

It's not business, it's all personal. It's not a sport, it's combat. This is how the greatest athletes get themselves in the right mindset to win.

Nah the true greats don't care about the actions of a 20 year old in a game they didn't really concern them
It's small minded and petty.

 

[Sterkol]

I find that picture really sad tbh. It almost feels personal to them. I could understand if he had celebrated like that against them or France...it's weird imo
Jailbert himself is a proper shithouse. In fact France have plenty ATM...

Tbf, I think it is the same amount of shithouse in every countries, why especially France... ?

Anyway, we will never know exactly the entire story

 

[BrokenWing]

They won a game they were expected to win.

That sure stuck it to the man and showed everyone.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I think we're lost in the sauce here.

Athletes blowing off steam after their club won the biggest trophy in their history. Pollock plays on the edge, he'll be involved in lots of this sort of thing and get his own back more often than not I reckon.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Nah the true greats don't care about the actions of a 20 year old in a game they didn't really concern them
It's small minded and petty.

Michael Jordan disagrees. Take it up with him.