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Dream team

Current XV (not necessarily picking the best mind you; just who I like / entertainment factor etc)

1 Gethin Jenkins
2 Bismarck du Plessis
3 Coenie Oosthuizen
4 Brad Thorn (still current enough for me LOL)
5 Andries Bekker
6 David Pocock
7 Juan Smith (c)
8 Mamuka Gorgodze
9 Sarel Pretorius
10 Quade Cooper
11 Rene Ranger
12 Frans Steyn
13 Richard Kahui
14 Gio Aplon
15 Kurtley Beale

if I could bring in a few chaps via time travel (at their best)

1 Os du Randt
2 Keith Wood
3 Carl Hayman
4 Kobus Wiese
5 John Eales (c)
6 David Pocock
7 Andre Venter
8 Sergio Parrisse
9 Joost van der Westhuizen
10 Stephen Larkham
11 Jonah Lomu
12 Tana Umaga
13 Brian O'Driscoll
14 Jason Robinson
15 Chris Latham
 
Players who are still playing.

1 Jenkins
2 Bismark
3 O Franks
4 Matfield
5 Thorn
6 Kaino
7 McCaw (C)
8 Gorgodze
9 Youngs
10 Carter
11 Jane
12 Roberts
13 Smith
14 North
14 Dagg


All time

1 Ox
2 Futzy
3 Heyman
4 Eales
5 Johnson
6 M Jones
7 McCaw
8 Zinny
9 Joost
10 Carter
11 Jonah
12 Horan
13 Mortlock
14 Wilson
15 Cullen
 
What are your thoughts on rugby players on juice? Surely most are
 
There was a thread about that recently, general consensus was that: no, they aren't.
Far too many random drug tests throughout the year (on and off season) for it to be going on.
 
What are your thoughts on rugby players on juice? Surely most are

There was one player who tested positive at the World Cup, I think that just about shows the extent of drug use in rugby.

That's 1 player out of 600 who were at the World Cup.
 
And also the simple fact that its unneccesary, which is a commonly looked over point. In the NFL steroids are everywhere because the goal is largely to get as big/fast as possible. In Rugby muscle mass has to be tempered with speed and aerobic fitness, which keeps raw size down.

The optimal size to be a rugby player is pretty easy to reach without needing extra substances
 
There was one player who tested positive at the World Cup, I think that just about shows the extent of drug use in rugby.

That's 1 player out of 600 who were at the World Cup.
Even that was 'only' for banned painkillers though, not 'roids.
 
Yeah, I am pretty content that if any banned substances are used it would rather be at schoolboy level where size matters more than in pro rugby and someone who is a bit smaller/slower to develop cracks under pressure and makes an error in judgement.

At the highest level skill and work rate are MUCH bigger concerns than muscle mass. I'd say that Richie McCaw is probably the showcase of what a brilliant rugby player has been over the last decade and, in relative terms of course, he really isn't 'big' at all.

Also, A LOT of cases have pretty much been purely accidental and substances that hardly can be considered 'performance-enhancing' but hardly has any effect in small amounts for the treatment of colds etc.
 
What are your thoughts on rugby players on juice? Surely most are

first, don't call me Shirley.

Second, this is your first post. Why must "most" rugby players be "in juice"

Your post is clearly foolish........and totally Trollish.
 
i couldnt pick 1 team so i picked 2 players in each position
15. Israel Dagg/Rob Kearney
14. George North/Chris Ashton
13. Jaque Fourie/Brian O'Driscoll
12. Jamie Roberts/Sonny Bill Williams
11. Zac Guildford/Cory Jane
10. Rhys Priestland/Daniel Carter
9. Piri Weepu/Fourie du Preez
1. Soane Tonga'uiha/Tony Woodcock
2. Schalk Brits/Bismarck du Plessis
3. Adam Jones/Ben Franks
4. Alun Wyn Jones/Sam Whitelock
5. Luke Charteris/Andries Bekker
6. Jerome Kaino/Dan Lydiate
7. Sam Warburton/Richie McCaw
8. Toby Faletau/Mamuka Gordgodze
 
My Dream Team

15. Christian Cullen

Bring any team vs my dream team... i dare you...

Team Culley will kick your ass...even when he gets send off in the 50th minute...
 
My Dream Team

15. Christian Cullen

Bring any team vs my dream team... i dare you...

Team Culley will kick your ass...even when he gets send off in the 50th minute...

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*****, please.
 
1. tendai mtawaira
2. tatafu polota nau
3. census johnston
4. radike samo
5. sam whitelock
6. liam messam
7. richie mccaw
8. keegan daniel
9. francois hougaard
10. dan carter
11. zac guildford
12. luke mcalister
13. robbie freuan
14. lwazi mvovo
15. robbie robinson
 
A team of my favourite players

1. Vasil Kakovin
2. Agustín Creevy
3. Adam Jones
4. Joe Tekori
5. Patricio Albacete
6. Alessandro Zanni
7. Justin Tipuric
8. Mamuka Gorgodze
9. Fourie du Preez
10. Dan Carter
11. Juan Imhoff
12. Sonny Bill Williams
13. Brian O'Driscoll
14. George North
15. Lucas González Amorosino
 
These are favourites, not the ones I consider to be the best.

I couldn't decide on my all time favourites (apart from obvious choices like Lomu), so will just stick to those still playing (internationally, so no Kaino for example):
1. Sona Taumalolo
2. William Servat
3. Martin Castrogiovanni
4. Brodie Retallick
5. Nick Croswell
6. Victor Vito
7. Richie McCaw
8. Imanol Harinordoquy
9. Mike Phillips
10. Daniel Carter
11. Vincent Clerc
12. Ma'a Nonu
13. Richard Kahui
14. Cory Jane
15. Israel Dagg

Just missed:
Conrad Smith, Piri Weepu, Jamie Roberts, Francois Trinh-Duc, Aaron Cruden, Hosea Gear, Andre Taylor, Andrew Trimble, Wesley Fofana, Jules Plisson, Lima Sopoaga, Francois Steyn, Patrick Lambie, Lucas Amorosino, Yannick Jauzion, Sonny Bill Williams, Felipe Contepomi... and many others!
Very difficult to pick!
 
Tonga'uiha
Strauss
O. Franks
Sharpe
Horwill
Brüssow
McCaw
Gorgodze
Genia
Beale
Ioane
Nonu
Fofana
Ngenwya
Taylor
 
22 man game day squad
1. Taumalolo
2. Mealamu
3. Adam Jones
4. Paul O'Connell
5. Richie Grey
6. Lydiate /Adam Kleeburger's beard
7. Dusatoir
8. Parisse
9. Hougaard
10. Carter
11. North
12. Nonu
13. B.O.D
14. Ngwenya
15. Frans Steyn
16. Woodcock
17. Rory Best
18. AW Jones
19. McCaw
20. Mike Philips
21. Owen Farrell
22. Leigh Halfpenny
 
1- Jenkins
2-Mealamu
3-Jones
4-O'Connel
5-Thorn
6-Ferris
7-Richie
8-Seanie
9-Francois Houggard
10-Carter
11-Dagg
12-Manu
13-Bod
14-Bowe
15-Kearney
 

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