Discussion in 'Aviva Premiership / LV Cup' started by Bullitt, Jul 22, 2005.
DOUBLE FRACTURE FOR UNFORTUNATE LIPMAN
Bath Rugby flanker Michael Lipman faces a lengthy spell on the sidelines after sustaining a serious facial injury during his clubâ€™s 33-11 victory over Exeter Chiefs in a pre-season trial match on Saturday.
The England international openside sustained the injury shortly after the interval at the County Ground and was taken to hospital for X rays on Saturday evening. A visit to a Bath specialist this morning confirmed that the player had sustained a double facial fracture.
â€œMichael will be out for longer than originally anticipated,â€ said Bath Rugbyâ€™s Head of Sports Medicine Geoff Clark to www.bathrugby.com. â€œHe sustained a heavy blow to the face and has a double fracture of his Zygoma (cheekbone) and his eye socket. He has yet to undergo surgery because the swelling has to be left to recede, however at this early stage it is looking as though Michael will be out of action for between two and three months.â€
The injury is a bitter blow for a player who has worked so hard over the summer period to get back to peak fitness following a nasty ankle injury and Michael was looking forward to making a big impression in the Guinness Premiership this season for his club.
Coach Mike Foley today praised Michael for his contribution over pre-season and expects the young openside to return in resolute mood.
â€œWe all feel desperately sorry for Lippy because he has trained so hard over the summer,â€ said Foley. â€œMichael is a quality player and I thought that both he and James Scaysbrook were a little hard done by not to be included in the EPS squad. However, I expect Michael to bounce back more determined than ever and show the England selectors what they are missing and we are all looking forward to that. The whole squad would like to wish him a speedy recovery.â€
Richard Hill injury.
Flare up of Lions injury means he'll be out for 8 more months minimum
I wonder would he not just retire, all these injuries are bound to have taken a toll and he'll be 33 by the time he's on the verge of a comeback, plus there could be the payoff of the gamble on Andy Farrell turning into a decent backrow player. Is all the hassle worth it?
I certainly doubt he'll ever play for England again. The word is that Farrell is going to play 12 for Sarries though, not back-row.
Backrow just seems the natural position for me, his defensive work will certainly be up to scratch, his ball carrying ability isn't questionable, scrummaging shouldn't be a major issue for him and he should be able to pick up the technical issues quite quickly, it's just his out and out pace I'd question for him playing centre.
Saw a piece on Farrell on Sky Sports News yesterday. It said that even though he'll be playing 12 in the game on Saturday, he's been training with the forwards as much as the backs. I don't think they know for sure where to play him until he's tried a few positions out.
Shame to hear about Hill, unlikely to play for England again, but still could have a shout come 2007 knowing the state of English rugby at the moment.
His last game was the dreadful 1st Test for the Lions - enough motivation for any player to keep on with it and have a better departure from the sport. Hill will hopefully play again before bowing out.
Guinness Premiership - 2005/06 fixtures:
GP Round 1 - Sept 2/3/4
Leicester Tigers v Northampton Saints
Worcester Warriors v Gloucester
Leeds Tykes v London Irish
Sale Sharks v Newcastle Falcons
London Wasps v Saracens
Bristol Shoguns v Bath
GP Round 2 - Sept 9/10/11
Bath v Northampton Saints
London Irish v Worcester Warriors
Newcastle Falcons v Bristol Shoguns
London Wasps v Leicester Tigers
Gloucester v Sale Sharks
Saracens v Leeds Tykes
GP Round 3 - Sept 16/17/18
Bristol Shoguns v Gloucester
Leicester Tigers v Bath
Worcester Warriors v Saracens
Leeds Tykes v London Wasps
Sale Sharks v London Irish
Northampton Saints v Newcastle Falcons
GP Round 4 - Sept 23/24/25
Leeds Tykes v Leicester Tigers
London Irish v Bristol Shoguns
Newcastle Falcons v Bath
London Wasps v Worcester Warriors
Gloucester v Northampton Saints
Saracens v Sale Sharks
GP Round 5 - Oct 14/15/16
Bristol Shoguns v Saracens
Leicester Tigers v Newcastle Falcons
Bath v Gloucester
Worcester Warriors v Leeds Tykes
Sale Sharks v London Wasps
Northampton Saints v London Irish
GP Round 6 - Nov 4/5
Worcester Warriors v Leicester Tigers
Leeds Tykes v Sale Sharks
London Irish v Bath
London Wasps v Bristol Shoguns
Gloucester v Newcastle Falcons
Saracens v Northampton Saints
GP Round 7 - Nov 11/12/13
Bristol Shoguns v Leeds Tykes
Leicester Tigers v Gloucester
Bath v Saracens
Sale Sharks v Worcester Warriors
Northampton Saints v London Wasps
Newcastle Falcons v London Irish
GP Round 8 - Nov 18/19/20
Worcester Warriors v Bristol Shoguns
Leeds Tykes v Northampton Saints
Sale Sharks v Leicester Tigers
London Irish v Gloucester
London Wasps v Bath
Saracens v Newcastle Falcons
GP Round 9 - Nov 25/26/27
Bristol Shoguns v Sale Sharks
Leicester Tigers v London Irish
Bath v Leeds Tykes
Northampton Saints v Worcester Warriors
Newcastle Falcons v London Wasps
Gloucester v Saracens
GP Round 10 - Dec 26
Bristol Shoguns v Leicester Tigers
Worcester Warriors v Bath
Leeds Tykes v Newcastle Falcons
Sale Sharks v Northampton Saints
London Wasps v Gloucester
Saracens v London Irish
GP Round 11 - Jan 1
Leicester Tigers v Saracens
Bath v Sale Sharks
Northampton Saints v Bristol Shoguns
London Irish v London Wasps
Newcastle Falcons v Worcester Warriors
Gloucester v Leeds Tykes
GP Round 12 - Jan 6/7/8
Worcester Warriors v Northampton Saints
Leeds Tykes v Bath
Sale Sharks v Bristol Shoguns
London Irish v Leicester Tigers
London Wasps v Newcastle Falcons
Saracens v Gloucester
GP Round 13 - Jan 27/28
Leicester Tigers v Sale Sharks
Bath v London Wasps
Northampton Saints v Leeds Tykes
Newcastle Falcons v Saracens
Bristol Shoguns v Worcester Warriors
Gloucester v London Irish
GP Round 14 - Feb 10/11/12
Worcester Warriors v Sale Sharks
Leeds Tykes v Bristol Shoguns
London Irish v Newcastle Falcons
London Wasps v Northampton Saints
Gloucester v Leicester Tigers
Saracens v Bath
GP Round 15 - Feb 17/18/19
Bristol Shoguns v London Wasps
Leicester Tigers v Worcester Warriors
Bath v London Irish
Sale Sharks v Leeds Tykes
Northampton Saints v Saracens
Newcastle Falcons v Gloucester
GP Round 16 - Feb 24/25/26
Leeds Tykes v Worcester Warriors
London Irish v Northampton Saints
Newcastle Falcons v Leicester Tigers
London Wasps v Sale Sharks
Gloucester v Bath
Saracens v Bristol Shoguns
GP Round 17 - March 10/11/12
Bristol Shoguns v London Irish
Leicester Tigers v Leeds Tykes
Bath v Newcastle Falcons
Worcester Warriors v London Wasps
Sale Sharks v Saracens
Northampton Saints v Gloucester
GP Round 18 - March 24/25/26
Bath v Leicester Tigers
London Irish v Sale Sharks
Newcastle Falcons v Northampton Saints
London Wasps v Leeds Tykes
Gloucester v Bristol Shoguns
Saracens v Worcester Warriors
GP Round 19 - Apr 7/8/9
Bristol Shoguns v Newcastle Falcons
Leicester Tigers v London Wasps
Worcester Warriors v London Irish
Leeds Tykes v Saracens
Sale Sharks v Gloucester
Northampton Saints v Bath
GP Round 20 - Apr 14/15/16
Bath v Bristol Shoguns
London Irish v Leeds Tykes
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks
Northampton Saints v Leicester Tigers
Gloucester v Worcester Warriors
Saracens v London Wasps
GP Round 21 - Apr 28/29/30
Bristol Shoguns v Northampton Saints
Worcester Warriors v Newcastle Falcons
Leeds Tykes v Gloucester
Sale Sharks v Bath
London Wasps v London Irish
Saracens v Leicester Tigers
GP Round 22 - May 6/7
Bath v Worcester Warriors
Gloucester v London Wasps
London Irish v Saracens
Newcastle Falcons v Leeds Tykes
Northampton Saints v Sale Sharks
Leicester Tigers v Bristol Shoguns
GP Semi-Finals - May 12/13/14
2nd vs 3rd
GP Finals - May 27
1st vs Winner of semi-final
The playoffs have been changed to include the 4th placed team and have 2 semi finals. The wildcards have also been scrapped.
Gets a bit messy having the Heineken Cup runner up getting a place ahead of the 5th or 6th placed league team, that's assuming there's even an English team in the final let alone two. Thought as well that there were only 6 places for England and an extra if an English club wins the HEC.
It seems better for the first place team to play forth as history shows 2 weeks off doesn't really help at all. Wildcards had little to them as well.
As for HC runners-up, well can't see that happening to a team outside the top4 if a English team does make it.
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They've got no chance against Bath then!
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lol! Cometh Sunday, we will have your fat boys run off their feet!
We won't mention the thumping from relegated Quins...
We can talk about it if you want. No excuses, but here are some anyway:
1) Quins have practically the same team, therefore a gelled squad, where as Bristol have recruited the most in the Prem(as they are 1 yr ahead of schedule).
2) It was a pre-season friendly, i.e. time to experiment, such as with the new type of defence we will employ.
3) They had that ******* Merthens.
I will be happy with 11th. Hill is an amazing coach, one for England in the future, and we will surprise some. We did however beat Cardiff the other day, who are Heinenken Cup quality!
London Irish for relegation!
Plus it's a derby game and we have got over our hoodoo of not being able to beat them.
Opening matches sold-out at Bris, Worcester and Leicester, and 35,000 tickets sold for double header at Twickenham. God bless the Bristol ticket office for sending me 4 tickets when I only ordered 2!
Oh man, got a price for them 2 tickets Robbinho?
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