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Hec 2005/2006

Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby@Dec 16 2005, 07:16 AM
Congratulations Gavin, the new Captain Obvious ™

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This is more like Henson...

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you tell them

credit : bbc.co.uk



The Scarlets have been angered by Wasps' reaction to their 21-13 loss at Stradey Park last week, with Lawrence Dallaglio blasting his team for what he described as a sub-standard performance.

"It was an interesting reaction, they've been very hard on themselves and said they didn't perform," Jenkins told BBC Sport Wales.

"That's surprising because we've got a great track record ourselves in the Heineken Cup and have been very defiant at home over the years.

"We're mentally strong, and that has only been boosted by last week's win.

"Maybe Wasps' expectation was too big. We had looked at the game tactically and applied pressure to their weaknesses.

"It's not just Wasps, maybe it's an English thing but it never ceases to amaze me.

"There's always an expectation when an English side come down to play in Wales that they have a divine right to win irrespective of how they play.

"That's not the case, you have to be a good team to win down here."
 
Typical Dellaglio reaction there. Did the same after they lost at Murrayfield. He seems to be unable to accept that Llanelli were the better side on the day. While Wasps didn't play their best, Llanelli lifted their game.

Though purely for Edinburgh I want the Wasps to win tomorrow.
 
Well Leinster are unchanged for tomorow's pool 5 match in Bourgoin, will be hoping for more of the same as last week, although we said that last year and only won by 5 points, would certainly take that this time round, could be tricky though. If we score early I'd say their heads will drop and we should win fairly comfortably, otherwise it could be an awkward day for Leinster.
 
and Bath get the bonus as well, although so did Leinster so hardly a surprise there, just thought that since it was quite close last week wasn't expecting such a win for Bath.

So pressure very much on Leinster tomorow.

Bonus point for Sale doesn't do much for Munster, but again like Bath and Leinster no ground lost merely matching each others performance.

Edinburgh's slim chances are well and truly gone after going down to Toulouse tonight.
 
Well it depends on the Llanelli v. Wasps result. Yeah I think it's a tall order but we'll probably give Llanelli a doing at Murrayfield.

EDIT - Forgot to say that, while we may not qualify for the quarters, it does us a benefit by allowing the team to concentrate on the league which, despite the setback at Firhill, is still on course.
 
Looks like the Blues won with a bonus point, no try for Lomu though.
I just hope the Dragons can salvage some pride away at Munster
 
Originally posted by SmokeyMonkey@Dec 17 2005, 06:00 PM
I just hope the Dragons can salvage some pride away at Munster
They came damn close, Munster were fairly shocking apart from Wallace and a few others.
 
Munster look passed it as a team. At least Leinster have some good young players coming through with Heaslip, Carney etc, but Munster just look over the hill by and large, which is a real shame. Wallace was excellent though - why does he not get a prolonged run at 7 for Ireland?
 
cause Eddie doesn't rate him and there's better opensides around than him. I wouldn't mind if he started getting a run at no. 8 could definitely create more of an impact from there but again Eddie seems to think that Leamy is the answer, with Foley being pushed out and doesn't have enough belief in Heaslip despite the proof being right under his nose. Worse still when Leamy is a better blindside as well. Although if Wally continues this form Eddie will have to reconsider.

Talk about pot kettle and black from the Ospreys yesterday, whingeing all week about Leicester being cheating ******** then what do they do yesterday, just a petty performance and childish behaviour all round. I see Adam Jones got torn a new arse several times yesterday.
 
Wallace dosen't start for ireland cos he dosen't get stuck in around the rucks and in the tight. He spends too much time on the wings/ out with the backs looking for passes. If we had a mammoth front five ala France which could take care of all the rough stuff then we might be able to afford him but at present we don't. Perhaps a good bench option but as Tarbh mentoined, Eddie dosen't rate him.
 
Well the Ospreys tactics of trying to rough the Tigers up doesn't seem to have worked with both Henson and Evans being cited. How much of a hardon did Stuart Barnes have for Henson when defending him for elbowing Moreno in the face.

Originally posted by BBC Sport
Henson cited after Tigers clashes

Wales and Lions centre Gavin Henson has been cited for two alleged incidents of foul play during Sunday's Heineken Cup match against Leicester Tigers.

Henson has been charged with elbowing Tigers prop Alejandro Moreno, leaving the Italian with a broken nose, and for aiming a kick at his opponent.

Ospreys team-mate Ian Evans has also been reported by citing commissioner Bill Dunlop for kicking Harry Ellis.

The disciplinary hearing will be held on Friday, 23 December.

If found guilty by the European Rugby Cup disciplinary committee, both Henson and Wales squad lock Evans face lengthy bans that could rule them out of the start of the Six Nations.

Evans' kick at Harry Ellis left the England scrum-half with possible cruciate ligament damage.

Neither Tigers coach Pat Howard nor Ospreys coach Lyn Jones would comment on either incidents immediately after the game.

But of the Henson incident, Jones did say: "Last week Gavin had his head stamped on and there was no citing so I don't foresee repercussions."

The controversial Liberty Stadium encounter followed a full-blooded encounter at Welford Road the previous week and a bitter build-up where the Ospreys accused their opponents of cheating.

Henson, 23, has had just two games back since recovering from his groin injury.

Wales coach Mike Ruddock will be desperate for his star inside centre to be available for the Six Nations opener against England at Twickenham on 4 February.

Evans, 21, was a shock call-up to the Wales squad in the autumn following Brent Cockbain's injury.

After Luke Charteris also joined the Wales casualty list, Evans sat on the bench for the Tests with South Africa and Australia.



He did not get on, but Ruddock has spoken highly of the youngster.

Evans made his Heineken Cup debut at Welford Road and impressed in the two Leicester encounters, taking ball off the Tigers' feared line-out.

Story from BBC SPORT:
 
And what news of the Leicester stamper from Welford Road? Yeah, that's right. They play for an Establishment club so they get f*** all punishment.

ERC.

Establishment Rogering c***s.
 
Originally posted by SmokeyMonkey@Dec 20 2005, 06:37 AM
And what news of the Leicester stamper from Welford Road? Yeah, that's right. They play for an Establishment club so they get f*** all punishment.

ERC.

Establishment Rogering c***s.
Ah, a Welsh person with Small Nation Syndrome what a pleasant surprise!

Henson got trampled on because he was on the wrong side of the ruck and was in the way, there was no malice in what happened to him, it was an accident. Henson, however, did not accidentally elbow Moreno in the face, and certainly did not accidentally try and kick him as he fell to the floor.

Incidentally, how the hell did Henson managed to miss a kick at an enormous Italian prop, appoximately 6 inches away from him, who to use a bit of Ronglish was gong down in installments?
 
Probably got a bit of fake tan in his eyes by mistake, put off the focus, would explain the missed kicks, prop and posts, elbow didn't do as much damage as it should have either.
 
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Henson, however, did not accidentally elbow Moreno in the face, and certainly did not accidentally try and kick him as he fell to the floor. 

Incidentally, how the hell did Henson managed to miss a kick at an enormous Italian prop, appoximately 6 inches away from him, who to use a bit of Ronglish was gong down in installments?[/b]

How could u say that Henson did it on purpose? He was getting taken out off the ball & was hit from behind, so how on earth could he elbow him on purpose when he had hid back to him?
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& for the kick it looked like a bit of red mist, but he seemed to pull out of it.
 

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