I label that quack science of the highest order and refute it accordingly. I challenge you to mathematically prove that Sex le Roux < Hooper
Gotta be Retallick though. Some fella and second Rows need some love.
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Gotta be Retallick though. Some fella and second Rows need some love.
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Retallick has one of the coolest surnames I've ever heard...and his full name, "Brodie Retallick", he sounds like a Mortal Kombat Karacter or someone from a Mad Max type post-apocalyptic movie, like a renegade who don't go by no laws, not even his own. Duane Vermeulen is banal as fucck...'Retallica' rocks, what cool manipulation can one make with Vermeulen ? Ain't nobodeh gat tahm fo dat.
+1. No, wait...+2 Retallick.
+1. No, wait...+2 Retallick.
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Brodie is a good cowboy/western name...the Outlaw Brodie Retallick. But Retallick also sounds like some kind of demon or alien hunter, so with the two names together he could be an alien-hunting space cowboy...like the Chronicles of Brodie Retallick, or something.
As far as who gets the prize, I certainly hope it's Retallick or Savea seeing as how I'm an ABs fan, but it would be nice to see the old fart, Sexton, get it, too. Really, they're all exceptional players, so whoever wins it will be deserving.
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> Johnny Sexton is a cool guy.
> Don't know why Willie Le Roux is there.
Savea a beast, but it's tie Between Brodie Retallick and Duane Vermeulen.
*A wild McCaw appears*
IRB Player of Year.
wut.
> Don't know why Willie Le Roux is there.
Savea a beast, but it's tie Between Brodie Retallick and Duane Vermeulen.
*A wild McCaw appears*
IRB Player of Year.
wut.
For me it's either Retallick or Thor. Clearly the two strongest candidates and I wouldn't complain about who got it of those two. I love Le Roux, but he's not consistant enough. Savea is the best winger atm imo, but he hasn't had the same impact as the other two. Sextons feels a bit token, but fair play to him, he's consistently good.
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I have to agree fully with you Nick. For me it's also between Shrek and Thor.
But we don't know what criteria the panel was looking at, and who will win.
I think Willie's nomination is warranted as he has changed the views of many people on how a South African backline operates. Therefore his influence as well as performance gives him the shot. He could just be the dark horse...
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I had picked Savea, Vermeulen and Rettallick in my head, it was always going to be a token gesture to the remaining two. Le Roux is wrong - plenty of 3/4's better. I guess they had to pick an Irish player seeing they won the 6N.
I would have added Lawes, Brown, Hooper maybe Sexton.
Also if these nominations were made in two weeks time I reckon a certain no7 from NZ is definitely back to his best form (which means best player in the world!)
I would have added Lawes, Brown, Hooper maybe Sexton.
Also if these nominations were made in two weeks time I reckon a certain no7 from NZ is definitely back to his best form (which means best player in the world!)
Agreed, either Retallick or Thor, Retallick has been better than Thor for most of the season but just waned a fraction toward the end imo, over all I think it is 52 - 48 for Retallick, just had more swing the game moments and he almost plays 2 roles on the field, work horse lock and ball scavenging loosie.
Savea - as stated above great try ration and best winger atm but hasn't had enough of those swing the game moments with the big plays as the other 2.
Hooper from Aussie has had a great season form wise but some of his decision making has been poor from a leadership point of view and maybe this went against him?
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I have that swing vote the other way around. I think because Duane got the MOTM award against the All Blacks in the last test, would have assisted in the matter.
Also, this:
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Wow, this is personally a really disappointing announcement from the IRB.
This is just my opinion so take it how you will but Sexton and Le Roux have no place on this list. There has to be a token NH player ever year - which is fine but Jonathan Sexton isn't even the best player in the NH let alone a top five player in the world. Mike Brown got robbed of the NH spot. Perhaps Sexton got the spot because of Ireland winning the 6N and him being their standout player? Either way, this is a Player of the Year award not an MVP discussion. Willie Le Rouxe is a fantastic player, no doubt but he is not the best fullback in the world - Smith, Folau and Brown are all better players who have bigger impacts for their teams.
I have no idea how Michael Hooper did not get a nomination. What more does he have to do? At 22, he has carried the Wallabies forward pack being man of the match in most of the game's he has played in. He makes huge meters, tops the tackle count, gets to every breakdown, captains the team and consistently steps up in big moments. In what is a really tough period for rugby union in Australia, I'm surprised that the IRB did not reward him for his play. A nomination could have really be used by the ARU and would have been well deserved. Perhaps I am showing some bias here but I think most people would agree with me on this point.
Thor, Savea and Retallik are great choices and very well deserved. I would be happy to see either Thor or Savea win the award but think Vermulen deserves it just a fraction more than the others. Either way, it does make sense that the IRB Player of the Year award is dominated but the world's two best teams.
Wow, this is personally a really disappointing announcement from the IRB.
This is just my opinion so take it how you will but Sexton and Le Roux have no place on this list. There has to be a token NH player ever year - which is fine but Jonathan Sexton isn't even the best player in the NH let alone a top five player in the world. Mike Brown got robbed of the NH spot. Perhaps Sexton got the spot because of Ireland winning the 6N and him being their standout player? Either way, this is a Player of the Year award not an MVP discussion. Willie Le Rouxe is a fantastic player, no doubt but he is not the best fullback in the world - Smith, Folau and Brown are all better players who have bigger impacts for their teams.
I have no idea how Michael Hooper did not get a nomination. What more does he have to do? At 22, he has carried the Wallabies forward pack being man of the match in most of the game's he has played in. He makes huge meters, tops the tackle count, gets to every breakdown, captains the team and consistently steps up in big moments. In what is a really tough period for rugby union in Australia, I'm surprised that the IRB did not reward him for his play. A nomination could have really be used by the ARU and would have been well deserved. Perhaps I am showing some bias here but I think most people would agree with me on this point.
Thor, Savea and Retallik are great choices and very well deserved. I would be happy to see either Thor or Savea win the award but think Vermulen deserves it just a fraction more than the others. Either way, it does make sense that the IRB Player of the Year award is dominated but the world's two best teams.
I agree that Hooper was probably more deserving of a nomination than Le Roux or Sexton. Probably more than Savea. Unlucky - but he's still so young I'm sure he'll be in the mix every year for the next 10.
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close enough, yeah that's pretty good. And right before a big action sequence, the movie has a recurrent catch phrase like "oh shiit here he comes !... - here comes who ?! - ...Brodie Retallick".
And this is his theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaI2qTpsgu0
And he has to have a 'thing' he does all the time...yeah okay, he sips on his own concoction from a little metal vial, nobody knows what it is, and it's some steaming green liquid. And he's got his own distinct iconic cringe for after he takes a sip. People around him go "they say he's got an iron liver....and another liver for a heart !!..".
The tagline on the poster goes: "No creed. No nation. No politics. No booze....no booze ?!!". BRODIE RETALLICK.
After a torrid action scene in a bar, he meets a hot chick who seduces him and after they screw she tells him "surely a man like you's got time for a lady..." and he replies "I fell in love once....but then I got back up".
Okay, that's enough for the day...
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I think Brodie would be quite pleased with the mental image he's conjured up in your mind. Each of the nominees could have their alter egos based on their names alone...
WILLIE LE ROUX - Master chef, specializing in roux sauces and French cuisine
BRODIE RETALLICK - Action film anti-hero.
KING JULIEN SAVEA - He likes to move it, move it! (*See Madagascar Movie)
JONATHAN SEXTON BLAKE - British pulp fiction detective
DWAYNE "The Rock" VERMEULEN - Pro-wrestler, actor, and middle-aged female heartthrob
*Some names have been altered to fit their egos...
Okay - back to business. Here's how I would rate these players, from most likely (or most deserved), to least.
Retallick
Sexton (just 'cause)
Vermeulen
Savea
Le Roux
I suppose most would put Sexton second from last (as far as possibilities go), but it's good to see a NH guy on the list, and an old fart, at that! Would be nice to see him get it for sentimental reasons, I suppose.
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Well, about le Roux and Hooper is too easy, just look the positions of their teams in the last Super Rugby season:
1- Waratahs
14- Cheetahs
Anyone who watched the season knows that Hooper is the heart of the team is important even for the Wallabies, is a cornerstone for Tahs.
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Well, about le Roux and Hooper is too easy, just look the positions of their teams in the last Super Rugby season:
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Anyone who watched the season knows that Hooper is the heart of the team is important even for the Wallabies, is a cornerstone for Tahs.
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Club form has absolutely nothing to do with this award.
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True, but I like his logic
The IRB player of the year should thus be fought out between Retallick and Savea:
1. New Zealand
2. South Africa
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5. Ireland
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I am surprised too. But on reflection, i think Brown has dropped internationally since the six nations and Sexton has improved game after game. His consistency makes him a deserved nominee for me.
Hooper deserves to be nominated too, the form open-side for me.
Agree, played a great season as a player, thought his ability as a captain was not the flashest sometimes, made some real bad calls at critical times, things like not taking the 3 points when on offer, taking scrums etc
I remember the June tests and a lot of european journalists and fans were saying that Brown was the best fullback in the world and would come down here and teach the AB's a lesson.
Well he did actually, just the lesson was how not to play fullback at test level.
The consensus on the thread seems to be that it's between Retallick and Vermeulen, and I would go with that, they are the two stand out players. I'm slightly nonplussed by Le Roux's inclusion, he is capable of brilliance, but every other player in that list you just know will have a stormer every day he plays...Le Roux is also capable of mediocrity. I would have included Hooper in his place personally, I think he's been outstanding every time I've seen him play - there is a list of jobs you want your back row to do, shared between the three of them and he does each and every one of them himself in most games.
Also, Ben Smith would undoubtedly be in this list if he hadn't got screwed over by a weird selection decision. As fullback he was head and shoulders over everyone, at a really strong time for international fullbacks.
EDIT: Actually I'd include Hooper alongside the Vermeulen and Retallick as the three stand out players of the year
Also, Ben Smith would undoubtedly be in this list if he hadn't got screwed over by a weird selection decision. As fullback he was head and shoulders over everyone, at a really strong time for international fullbacks.
EDIT: Actually I'd include Hooper alongside the Vermeulen and Retallick as the three stand out players of the year
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Everyone in the North Hemisphere/European regional area mass voting for Sexton I see.
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why willie :? why not Ben Smith????
hell even Mccaw has been immense... no im not making it just about NZ...
Duane deserves to be there I must add... Willie's inclusion has me puzzled...
its between Brodie and Duane...
maybe ben and hooper were not included to make the decision of who the winner is easier :?
ben + Hooper + duane + Brodie... damn... tough one..
hell even Mccaw has been immense... no im not making it just about NZ...
Duane deserves to be there I must add... Willie's inclusion has me puzzled...
its between Brodie and Duane...
maybe ben and hooper were not included to make the decision of who the winner is easier :?
ben + Hooper + duane + Brodie... damn... tough one..
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Congratulations to 2014 IRB player of the year Brodie Retallick.
All Blacks cleaned sweeped all the awards.
All Blacks cleaned sweeped all the awards.
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Well done Retallick but I don't think he was actually the best All Blacks player this year. I think it was 2012 when Read won the overall award but McCaw won the NZ award. I think the same thing will happen this year.
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well done. Happy what I think is the fairest winner got it. The right choice was made.
Brodie Retallica, the renegade.
Brodie Retallica, the renegade.
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To be fair, your argument is complete and utter rubbish! This award is about "player" of the year, and a savvy rugby analyst will see well past "team" performance when identifying the best "players" in the world.
Apologies, I came on here to congratulate the well deserving Brodie Retallick for winning the award, but read the above comment, and was amazed that someone who has posted on here more than 3000 times, could do so with such ignorance
Well done Brodie, fully deserved! The only player I thought could have come close would have been Duane Vermeulen, but IMHO the right decision was made! Brodie was an absolute beast his year. His work round the ruck is phenomenal and in more recent times he has become a crucial link man in the ABs forward play. Sensational skills from such a big lad. If political rubbish stays out of the awards in years to come, Brodie has the capabilities of winning this award many times! I believe he is still getting better. Congrats! Also Congrats to Hansen and the ABs, what a tremendous year!
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